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To: PilotDave

He still doesn’t get that there is more to being a natural born citizen than simply being born in America, but it’s a start.
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Presently, there isn’t. Being born here is all it takes. But at the time of obama’s birth, there was a little more to it. The age of the mother, her citizenship status, and her residency history played a part in the determination if the father was not a citizen.


4 posted on 01/21/2011 8:13:59 AM PST by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: mamelukesabre

“Presently, there isn’t. Being born here is all it takes”

I think you are confusing the standards for citizenship and the job requirements for being President, Natural Born Citizen. The founders discussed the terms citizen, native born and natural born. They chose natural born as the requirement for exactly 1 job. That of POTUS. Natural Born means born of 2 US citizen parents and born on US soil. Of course we need the Supreme Court to rule on this, in terms of POTUS.


15 posted on 01/21/2011 8:25:46 AM PST by PilotDave (No, really, you just can't make this stuff up!!!)
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To: mamelukesabre
Chester Arthur perpetrated a fraud as to his eligibility to be Vice President by spreading various lies about his parents’ heritage. President Arthur’s father, William Arthur, became a United States citizen in August 1843. But Chester Arthur was born in 1829. Therefore, he was a British Citizen by descent, and a dual citizen at birth, if not his whole life. He wasn’t a “natural born citizen” and he knew it.

How ironic that the allegations started by Arthur Hinman in his pamphlet entitled, “How A British Subject Became President”, have turned out to be true…but not for the reason Hinman suggested.

Hinman alleged that Arthur was born in Ireland or Canada as a British subject. It was bunk. It’s been definitively established that Chester Arthur was born in Vermont. But Hinman turns out to be correct anyway since Chester Arthur was a British citizen/subject by virtue of his father not having naturalized as a United States citizen until Chester Arthur was almost 14 years old.

That means Chester Arthur was a British subject at the time of his birth.

17 posted on 01/21/2011 8:27:01 AM PST by kabar
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To: mamelukesabre

“Presently, there isn’t. Being born here is all it takes. But at the time of obama’s birth, there was a little more to it. The age of the mother, her citizenship status, and her residency history played a part in the determination if the father was not a citizen.”

Actually being born here is not all it takes. There are at least 4 different definitions of “citizen” in the US. Born in the US makes you a “born citizen” or a “native citizen” not a “natural born citizen” 4 Supreme Court Cases have defined “Natural Born” as born in the US of 2 US citizen parents. President Chester A. Arthur was not a natural born citizen and he lied about his family history to cover it up and later burned most of his papers. His father was born in Ireland and did not become naturalized until after Arthur was born.

This issue should have been discussed and resolved during th 2008 campaign. Instead it was allowed to be covered up and now we have a person sitting in the Whitehouse who is not eligible to be President and who has known all along he is not eligible and has more than likely committed fraud to cover it up.

The Democratic Party of Hawaii refused to put Obama’s name on the Hawaii ballot due to ineligibility in 2008. Nancy Pelosi then perjured herself and sent a nomination letter to the Supervisor of Elections in HI stating that Barack Obama was eligible to be on the ballot under the Constitution of the USA. He then arbitraily decided to place Obama’s name on the ballot using a Hawaii statute that allows the Elections Supervisor to make a decison if there are 2 competing opinions of a candidate’s eligibility. Nancy Pelosi then send a different letter to the other 49 states omitting the part about being elibible under the Constitution.


19 posted on 01/21/2011 8:31:07 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: mamelukesabre
He still doesn’t get that there is more to being a natural born citizen than simply being born in America, but it’s a start.

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"Presently, there isn’t. Being born here is all it takes. But at the time of obama’s birth, there was a little more to it. The age of the mother, her citizenship status, and her residency history played a part in the determination if the father was not a citizen."

Not true. Two citizen parents required for natural born citizenship.

85 posted on 01/21/2011 11:12:42 AM PST by Godebert
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