Posted on 12/15/2010 7:44:53 PM PST by Pan_Yan
Ping. I saw you put up the last couple of threads about this.
I’m slow to understand why such a puny Army weapon deployment story is, well, a story.
...oops, Marine.
Because this is not a direct-impingement AR clone rifle.
This is A Big Deal.
1. It's the Marines, not the Army.
2. I put it in 'General/Chat', not 'News/Activism'.
3. Thousands of Americans died in Vietnam with their useless, jammed, untested, rushed into combat piece-of-crap AR-15s in their hands. I'd prefer not to see a repeat in Afghanistan.
Its a non-belt-fed suppresive fire weapon in a really wimpy caliber. I don’t see the upside. A select fire infantry weapon is one thing, but this is supposed to replace a machinegun. How does no sound?
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2010/06/07/m27-infantry-automatic-rifle/
M27 Infantry Automatic Rifle
I read somewhere that the HK 416 was withdrawn from Army Spec Ops units because of lower receiver cracking. The article I read said it was a design flaw, not a manufacturing issue. I wonder if they fixed that?
Same caliber between them. A machinegun must be able to put down some steel. Mag fed just isn’t going to do it in 5.56 NATO. If I had to choose, I’d keep the SAW, even with its problems. If the M27 was 7.62 NATO it would at least have a decent caliber.
“Thousands of Americans died in Vietnam with their useless, jammed, untested, rushed into combat piece-of-crap AR-15s in their hands. I’d prefer not to see a repeat in Afghanistan. “
Maybe “thousands” died because they are required to have an IQ three points more than a fork to use it.
I see it today. The more technically advanced the equipment the dumber the troops are to absorb the technology...Not enough time is given for training....and the IQ factor isn’t getting any better.....
Seems like a lot of lost time during magazine changes. Full auto is so you can send a lot of rounds down range quickly. Can’t do that if you are changing mags all the time. Might as well have stuck to the full auto M16’s.
Why in the Sam Hill did Gene Stoner design the direct gas-impingement system in the first place?
Looks like an SR-25. Knight Armaments version of the AR10. Our SOG people like it for the ‘reach out and touch someone’ factor.
How much of the weight savings is now eaten up by additional magazines. I don’t see the benefit in this new light machine gun.
It would be for the caliber. A BAR at least had the oomph to hurt something, despite the mag fed disability. But I am a bit old school, having carried the M-60 (with ALL its problems, at least it put a world of hurt downrange). It would deny the enemy the ground in front of it. And that is the point of a light machinegun.
Yeh and the M60 makes a lot of noise and scares the heck out of the people down range. 5.56 sounds wimpy.
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