Next up for Cryin' Ryan!
Posted on 12/15/2010 2:48:27 PM PST by paul in cape
The New York Jets suspended assistant coach Sal Alosi indefinitely Wednesday after they discovered he ordered five inactive players to form a wall along the sideline for a punt return, during which he tripped a Miami Dolphins player.
General manager Mike Tannenbaum said Wednesday that Alosi, the team's strength and conditioning coach, did not initially acknowledge that he ordered players to stand that way during the investigation Monday.
"As we continued our investigation, we discovered some new information," Tannenbaum said in a conference call from the NFL owners meetings in Dallas, "and the players at the Miami game were instructed by Sal to stand where they were to force the gunner in the game to run around them."
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Next up for Cryin' Ryan!
The Dolphins player was illegally running down the sidelines (out of bounds) in an attempt to get past the two Jets players that were blocking him.
The rule states that if you go out of bounds (even if you are pushed out of bounds) you must IMMEDIATLY go back in bounds. You are not allowed to run even one yard down field until you come back in bounds.
Had the Dolphins player been following the rules, he could not have been tripped.
Technically there’s nothing against the rules about having guys stand there. That’s acceptable sideline territory during all plays. It just has the potential of annoying the other team’s gunners during punts since that’s an areas where they’re frequently forced out of bounds by the return blockers. Where I don’t think Rex would do this is that it put the team’s own players in just as much risk as the opponents, maybe even more, guys running fast wearing pads running into guys not wearing pads has hazards all around.
If a defender is that far out of bounds on a return, he has no business continuing with the play. He is not permitted to take part, so he should just stop. Not to defend the tripping, but trying to keep the opposing players from cheating by running way outside the lines is a legitimate tactic.
Interesting aspect I hadn’t considered. Had the Dolphins been doing this sort of thing regularly? Was this an attempt to get them to stop?
They’re allowed to run down the sideline so long as they’re angling back into the field and not avoiding an unobstructed path back in. Happens on almost every punt, the recovery blockers push the gunners out of bounds, the gunners don’t just stop and get back in, they keep running at top speed and angle back into play. There’s basically 3 reasons the guy gets a flag in that situation: nobody actually pushed them out, they keep running on the white even though nobody is in the way, they go off the white in the other direction and start running through the middle of the team’s sideline. Nobody expects a guy running full speed to suddenly violate the laws of physics to get back in bounds after being pushed out.
The guy ran up the field out of bounds, but I guess that doesn’t matter now.
Yeah. I watched the video without bias. He was so far out they might just call fouls in the stands next time. I think the guy who tripped him was a weasel and should be fined and fired BTW, but the guy ran into enemy territory. What should he get flowers? :)
No he’s allowed to take part, he just can’t be the first to touch the ball or touch the guy with the ball.
He wasn’t pushed out.
The Dolphins player’s mother is the Rep.elect Lt. Governor
of Florida.
Hey Ryan and the JETS, YOU SUCK!!!!!
Rex should be suspended as well.
Looks pushed in the replays I’m finding on youtube. It’s very typical in punts for the gunner to get pushed out, especially when it’s a 2 blocker situation, they’re just plain out massed and maneuvered.
A receiver cannot go out of bounds and then return to the field of play to make a catch. Players can, however, go out of bounds and return to the field of play to make a legal tackle on a ball carrier. A little known out of bounds rule states that if a player on the receiving team can field a kickoff with even one foot out of bounds then the ball belongs to the receiving team 30 yards from where the ball was kicked.
Read more: NFL Out of Bounds Rules | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/about_4676933_nfl-out-bounds-rules.html#ixzz18DtnXqv4
Carroll was beyond the sideline and into the bench area of the Jets sideline. He was beat, and should have given up. He ran a good 20 yards downfield out of bounds. He was out of the play.
I got no problem with the wall. The Jets could put cheerleaders there, as far as I’m concerned. But the tripping was wrong. The coach should have just stood there and let Carroll run into him from behind.
The first excuse that Jets fans used was that Carroll was out of bounds. Then we learn that two jets players were preventing him from coming back inbounds. Next we find out that not only did the strength trainer trip him, he ordered the others standing there like a wall to do so.
Next in line will be that he ordered the two Jets players to corner a Dolphin player on the sidelines and steer him into that wall so he could trip him.
Whether this strength trainer or the Jets fairy coach put these things in motion, I don’t know but I can’t believe this one guy concocted this whole thing on his own without anyone else knowing about it. The Jets, their entire team and their poor excuse for fans, are nothing but a bunch of sore losing dimwits.
There is no defense for what the sissy Jets did. I hate the Patsies but I’m glad they punked those Jets now.
From now on, any time the Jets feel like injuring other players, the offended team should get Belicheat rules — free filming the Jets training sessions, free copy of the Jets playbook, and any other special rules that benefit the offended team.
The Jets aren’t worth spit. Maybe they should be the team that ends up in LA replacing the Rams.
He had two Jets hugging the sideline keeping him from having a clean angle back. He went out at around the 20 and got tripped at the 30, which with the typical stride of the average fast NFL runner is 4 or 5 steps.
The wall isn’t against the rules, but it isn’t actually a good idea. Putting your unpadded players in a position to potentially get run into by padded players puts everybody at risk but your players (due to the lack of pads) are at a higher risk. Kind of a lame thing for your strength and conditioning coach to be putting your players at risk. It shows a pattern of not really thinking things through.
Who’s your team?
I’m still ticked that the Jets went after Jason Hanson, forcing the Lions to use Suh for the extra point, which he missed, the Lions win that game if he makes the PAT, and they would have turned their season around, instead they went into a tailspin after that game.
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