Posted on 11/25/2010 2:57:45 PM PST by Bad~Rodeo
And the drunk continued to drink. Its his fault.
If you can’t get intoxicated in a bar...
Safe Harbor law = pony up some $ to the TABC and they had you a get out of jail free card.
No one is saying you can’t get drunk in a bar, just don’t drive while drunk. The bar should have called him a cab like many other bars
....yes????????
From the article:
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Why not? Something in Texas law known as Safe Harbor, which is the only law of its kind in the nation. It says if liquor license owners take a few simple steps, they’re immune from liability for serving drunks or serving minors. What are those steps? Make sure bartenders and waitresses go through state-approved training; make sure liquor serving laws are posted at the bar, and make sure nobody encourages violation of the law.
Follow those rules, and you’re protected against lawsuits and action by the TABC.
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Sounds reasonable to me. Safe harbors for bar owners make sense. Go after the driver.
A good law. The nation is too “deep pockets lawsuit” happy.
Article ALSO stated that the bar in question CONTINUED to serve this guy knowing he was drunk. Texas also has the Dram law. You find no culpability with the bar at all in this story?
No HE should have called himself a cab. A bar’s job is to sell stuff to customers, it’s the CUSTOMER’S responsibility to use that stuff safely. Server liability laws have always been silly, demanding bars know way more about their customers than is reasonable. You don’t know how drunk a guy is if he’s not being odd, heck you don’t even know if the guy is driving or not. They’re bartenders, not mind readers or doctors.
Agreed. And the article never talks about what happened to the driver. But apparently the family did get money, er, um, I mean, “justice.”
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The Garcia family did file a lawsuit against Janies Bar. While the Safe Harbor law does protect a bar in a civil court, it does not prohibit anyone from actually filing suit against such a business for over serving. However, owner Janie Parker said the case was settled for an undisclosed amount by her insurance company because it was cheaper than going to court
I read it, but the article saying it doesn’t make it so.
Unbelievable, then using your logic, I guess the majority of the bars here are wasting their money in sponsoring Sober/Safe Ride Home programs
Poor use of slippery slope. If a bar FREELY CHOOSES to assist their customers in safely consuming booze that’s their choice and nobody would or should have a problem with that. What I said is that the laws that FORCE bars to be liable for the voluntary actions of OTHERS are silly. They’re as silly as those lawsuits against gun makers some cities were throwing around a while ago, as silly as the lawsuits against cigarette companies. Bars sell a legal product, some people misuse that legal product, but that’s not the bars’ fault, that’s the drinker’s fault.
Then your beef is with MADD, good luck.
Every single person that thinks server liability laws are good is wrong. Which includes you along with MADD, which has turned into a psychotic neo-prohibitionist group and is thankfully losing lots of support because of it.
Read post 5 Einstein before you start making blanket statements. I could care less if YOUR customers get stupid drunk, JUST DON’T DRIVE
I read post 5, I replied to post 5, and you ARE supporting server liability laws, and those ARE bad laws that hold bars responsible for the act of others. And your need to use insults shows you DO know logic is not on your side.
The only one to blame for this accident is the drunk driver who continued to drink. To hold the bar responsible is just BS and another way to rip money from someone. Would their son be any less dead if they could sue the bar? Nope, he wouldn’t, no amount of money will bring him back.
That’s your opinion and you’re entitled to it.
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