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To: Swordmaker
...tactics that will void Apple warranties and violate iPhone user agreements...

LOL. What kind of idiot would buy a telephone (or other device, for that matter) in the first place where the manufacturer gets to tell you after the sale what or what not you are allowed to do with it?

IMO the iPhone may be a fun toy for some, but actually is a totally expendable fashion accessory (which I and probably most can do without as easily as doing without any news of the current crop of celebrity sluts... - think Lindsay Lohan, Britney Spears, and all the others whose recent adventures get posted here all the time).

I pay for it - I control it. Or I do not buy it. Period.

11 posted on 11/03/2010 4:26:07 PM PDT by Moltke (panem et circenses)
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To: Moltke

Apple can’t tell you what you can do, nor can you tell them to cover a phone under warranty after you do something to void the warranty. The problem here is? I don’t see a problem with a company putting on restrictive warranty terms and refusing to support any hacked up piece of software someone decided to install on their device.


13 posted on 11/03/2010 5:11:45 PM PDT by publiusF27
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To: Moltke
> I pay for it - I control it. Or I do not buy it. Period.

Of course, that's entirely your right to exercise that discretion.

> What kind of idiot would buy a telephone (or other device, for that matter) in the first place where the manufacturer gets to tell you after the sale what or what not you are allowed to do with it?

Do you own a car? Not only does the manufacturer tell you what you must do with it (if you want it to stay in warranty), but the GOVERNMENT tells you what you are and are not allowed to do with it, from purchase to scrapheap. And it severely limits what you can do with it, on the public roads. And taxes your use of it with registrations, etc.

You could get a bicycle, which has none of those restrictions or limitations.

Or are you the kind of "idiot" who has a car?

Relax, I'm joking with you... :)

14 posted on 11/03/2010 5:59:10 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: Moltke

Where did Apple say you could not do whatever you wanted with your phone? They did say that if you hacked or modified it they would not pay to fix it. No manufacturer can warranty against problems that you intentionally cause. This weekend I am going to rewire my Sharp Aquos to display 3d. If I break it while trying to apply my design tweak, should Sharp buy me a new tv? A few years ago I bought a Pioneer NAVIC 2 for my car. I modified it so it would show movies in the front seat while driving. This totally voided the warranty. I understood the risk and accepted it. No one forced me to buy the product, same as Apple, same as Sony etc. What electronic manufacturer do you know of that allows modifications to their product that they willl warranty? Modify away, you are totally entitled to, just don’t go running to the manufacturer complaining when you break it.

To keep on topic, my 3GS with the latest software runs every bit as good as it did from the day I turned it on.


19 posted on 11/03/2010 9:58:47 PM PDT by coon2000 (Give me Liberty or give me death!)
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To: Moltke
What kind of idiot would buy a telephone (or other device, for that matter) in the first place where the manufacturer gets to tell you after the sale what or what not you are allowed to do with it?

Almost everybody. It's the nature of modern over-reaching software licenses.

24 posted on 11/04/2010 6:02:53 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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