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To: kbennkc

The point here is that the leftis selling the Afghan war to the American people.

Because it’s Russia’s war, and we are pacifying their underbelly for free, while getting all the bad press, and Russia gets to sit on the sideline and gently tut.

It needs doing. But Russia should be paying.


2 posted on 07/30/2010 7:32:03 AM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out
It needs doing. But Russia should be paying.

Good point.

6 posted on 07/30/2010 7:38:04 AM PDT by Greymung
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I’d say you were right!....They way I see it,The ruskies should be in there alongside the U.S. instaed of relying on the U.S. to do their dirty work for them because they were the ones who lost the Aghan war in the first place.
The U.S. shouldn’t have financed the fundamentalist muslims in the first place.


9 posted on 07/30/2010 7:41:09 AM PDT by cavador ("Self determination is not a malfunction"!(Harkness;Fallout 3 Rivet City 2077))
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To: chuck_the_tv_out
It needs doing. But Russia should be paying.

The Soviet war in Afghanistan was a ten-year conflict involving the Soviet Union, supporting the Marxist government of the Democratic Republic of Afghanistan at their own request against the Mujahideen Resistance. The mujahideen found other support from a variety of sources including the United States, United Kingdom, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Egypt and other Muslim nations through the context of the Cold War.

Soviet ground forces, under the command of Marshal Sergei Sokolov, entered Afghanistan from the north on December 27, 1979. In the morning, the 103rd Guards 'Vitebsk' Airborne Division landed at the airport at Bagram and the deployment of Soviet troops in Afghanistan was underway. The force that entered Afghanistan, in addition to the 103rd Guards Airborne Division, was under command of the 40th Army and consisted of the 108th and 5th Guards Motor Rifle Divisions, the 860th Separate Motor Rifle Regiment, the 56th Separate Airborne Assault Brigade, the 36th Mixed Air Corps. Later on the 201st and 58th Motor Rifle Divisions also entered the country, along with other smaller units.[37] In all, the initial Soviet force was around 1,800 tanks, 80,000 soldiers and 2,000 AFVs. In the second week alone, Soviet aircraft had made a total of 4,000 flights into Kabul. With the arrival of the two later divisions, the total Soviet force rose to over 100,000 personnel.

Between December 25, 1979 and February 15, 1989, a total of 620,000 soldiers served with the forces in Afghanistan (though there were only 80,000-104,000 serving at one time): 525,000 in the Army, 90,000 with border troops and other KGB sub-units, 5,000 in independent formations of MVD Internal Troops, and police forces. A further 21,000 personnel were with the Soviet troop contingent over the same period doing various white collar and blue collar jobs.

The total irrecoverable personnel losses of the Soviet Armed Forces, frontier, and internal security troops came to 14,453. Soviet Army formations, units, and HQ elements lost 13,833, KGB sub-units lost 572, MVD formations lost 28, and other ministries and departments lost 20 men. During this period 417 servicemen were missing in action or taken prisoner; 119 of these were later freed, of whom 97 returned to the USSR and 22 went to other countries.

Material losses were as follows:

451 aircraft (includes 333 helicopters)

147 tanks

1,314 IFV/APCs

433 artillery guns and mortars

11,369 cargo and fuel tanker trucks.

The Soviets/Russians have already paid plenty for Afghanistan.

12 posted on 07/30/2010 7:49:44 AM PDT by kabar
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To: chuck_the_tv_out
The point here is that the leftis selling the Afghan war to the American people.

The Leftist-In-Chief will soon be selling the idea we can work with a government sharing power with the Taliban. When someone here posts we should just nuke the place, we know the next post will be a sane, soothing, caution about Hitler.

My mind set is without a tool to deal with a people who can not be enticed with freedom and hard cash. I find myself thinking about a series of Enewetak evacuations. Maybe not Hitler, but as bad as Rameses. Instead of blood on door posts and beam to be passed over, it would be an invitation to women and children, "if you want to live, get on the C-130 now." Sorry adult men. If you would were worth a flying fig, you probably already died fighting these evil monsters.

15 posted on 07/30/2010 7:56:35 AM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it freedom has a flavor the protected will never know .F Trp 8th Cav)
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