Posted on 02/27/2010 9:46:30 AM PST by Maelstorm
They were all victims, whether they were interned in a concentration camp, imprisoned by a court or spared actual persecution. For ultimately, the racist Nazi system curtailed the life-opportunities of each and every homosexual man and woman. (p. 7).
It is worth pointing out that the book by Grau cited above is also cited by Scott Lively in The Pink Swastika. Lively cites the Grau book six times by my count. However, there are 104 documents in the Hidden Holocaust? Lively had to skip over sections which demonstrated clear victimization of homosexuals to get to the parts he cited."
http://wthrockmorton.com/2009/06/03/before-the-pink-swastika/
Why don't you read something a little more scholarly? Truthful. I'm not pushing an agenda quite unlike you. I don't approve of their lifestyle, but I don't approve of KKK cross burning either. (I posted my veteran status because someone did trying to use that as an "argument from authority"((same as you using Jim Robinsons' name))
JR banned about 8 people in the last week or so who were pushing homosexuals in the military, that’s why I pinged him.
Homosexuals get the above diseases at much higher rates than normal people. You cannot deny that.
Regarding your comments about how homosexuals fared under the Nazi regime, you can quote mine as much as you want. Homosexuals were never targeted for extinction, many Nazis were homosexuals themselves, and this was common knowledge until the onslaught of the homo-nazi agenda in the last 20 or more years. Read The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, by journalist William L. Shirer. He tells the truth, before the propaganda of political correctness.
I don't know who made the decision to do this... But it's not a secret that the Republican LEFT, thinks the party should go queer... like the two "cuties" in the lower Pic.
CPAC wants you young man!... BE a "queer-conservative,".. That is the future...
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Where I live there is a fairly large homosexual population and most women on the local police force are lesbians. A man I used to work for said when his wife applied at the police department, she was advised if she wasn’t a lesbian, she better at least act like one. Sick.
The “gay lifestyle” is about sex - as much as possible, on demand, and usually anonymous. It is NOT about acheiving equality, marriage, or anything else. That is the fake vaneer that is put on it.
Good GOD!!!!
Here’s the GOProud agenda. Regarding the stats of Dems and Repugs and morality, there were a couple of articles on FR maybe between two to three years ago? They were on FR, maybe it was 4 yrs ago, time goes by very fast. Lots of questions about moral issues and behaviors and it was quite telling. The Dems were much more prone to various immoral, illegal and unethical behavior than Repugs. And it wasn’t even conservatives, just Rs. If I had the article on my desktop, I’d post it. Actually there were a couple of articles about the study IIRC.
Note that these homosexual agenda pushers with a fake label on want to “hold the line” on gov spending. Hold the freaking line? WHen it’s way over in the “insane” territory? And punish other countries who are mean to sexual perverts? Sheesh! And of course they like “hate crimes” bills - not exactly small government - and employment protection (aka “you can’t fire homosexuals”).
Here’s the GOProud homo-nazi, non-conservative agenda.
GOProud’s Conservative [sic] Agenda
The so-called “gay agenda” is defined by the left through a narrow prism of legislative goals. ****While hate crimes and employment protections may be worthy goals***, there are many other important priorities that receive little attention from the gay community. GOProud’s agenda emphasizes conservative and libertarian principles that will improve the daily lives of all Americans, but especially gay and lesbian Americans.
1 - TAX REFORM - Death tax repeal; domestic partner tax equity, and other changes to the tax code that will provide equity for gays and lesbians; cut in the capital gains and corporate tax rates to jump start our economy and create jobs; a fairer, flatter and substantially simpler tax code.
2 - HEALTHCARE REFORM - Free market healthcare reform.
Legislation that will allow for the purchase of insurance across state lines - expanding access to domestic partner benefits; emphasizing individual ownership of healthcare insurance - such a shift would prevent discriminatory practices by an employer or the government.
3 - SOCIAL SECURITY REFORM - Bringing basic fairness to the Social Security system through the creation of inheritable personal savings accounts.
4 - DON’T ASK, DON’T TELL REPEAL - Repeal of the military’s Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell policy.
5 - HOLDING THE LINE ON SPENDING - Standing up for all tax payers against wasteful and unneccessary spending to protect future generations from the mounting federal debt.
6 - FIGHTING GLOBAL EXTREMISTS - Standing strong against radical regimes who seek to criminalize gays and lesbians.
7 - DEFENDING OUR CONSTITUTION - Opposing any anti-gay federal marriage amendment.
8 - ENCOURAGING COMMUNITY ENTREPRENEURSHIP - Package of free market reforms to encourage and support small businesses and entrepreneurship in the gay community.
9 - REVITALIZING OUR COMMUNITIES - A package of urban related reforms; expanding historic tax preservation credits; support for school choice.
10 - DEFENDING OUR COMMUNITY - Protecting 2nd amendment rights
having served then there is no way I want homosexuals in the military and not one person I know serving still wants them.
They will bring nothing but problems and this idiot in the white house who does not even know what a corps man is and thinks corpse is using the military as a social experiment
It’s all about THEM, isn’t it?
I notice they don’t try to preach morality, because they are devoid of same.
I'm supporting Americans who want to serve their country in the military. I don't care about their sexual inclinations, so long as their actions are consistent with good order and discipline. There's nothing inherent about being a homosexual that impacts military readiness than being left handed, so therefore, I'm ok with serving alongside homosexuals. It's not like they have to hold a grenade different or anything.
As for the BS flag, the article states that the girl went through Basic in 2009. In all four services (Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines), there were 428 DADT discharges in 2009. Taking her at her word, she went through basic with more than 10% of the homosexuals outed in the entire US military... all at once, and all in the same company. Extraordinary facts require extraordinary proof.
Paranoia issues? Have you been a female serving in today’s military?
Funny thing about that. I did serve in today's military, though I'm not a female. There are not ANYWHERE NEAR that many lesbians serving in the military. How do I know? Well, it's hard not to notice that almost all of the female population in your workforce doesn't have a husband or boyfriend when you're a single man, as I was for periods of my service.
I served with homosexuals (both male and female), who did their jobs just fine and never did their sexual orientation cause a problem with morale or mission. I knew a few who were 'outed' to their chains of command through blackmail, a loss of good Soldiers and a detriment to the nation. I also knew a few who outed themselves because they decided they wanted out of their service obligation, which was a waste of Army resources.
Repealing DADT AND allowing the command to maintain good order and discipline in the unit (regardless of a member's sexual proclivity) is the best action for the nation's defense. Allowing open homosexuals to serve removes the blackmail threat (which is a measurable threat to national security) as well as the contract escape clause for gay servicemen. Allowing commanders to maintain good order and discipline is the only way the military can maintain readiness and fight our wars. One without the other is a recipe for disaster.
Wether the woman in the article stated correct figures of the percentage of sexual deviants that she saw or not, the facts remain the same.
Homosexuality is a mental illness, with a much higher rate of STDs than the general population, including a very high rate of HIV. Mentally ill people and sexual perverts do not belong in the military. It’s that simple.
You are cleverly (you think!) trying to compare left handedness - an inborn, morally neutral trait, with people who choose to practice sodomy.
How insulting to all southpaws!
PS - That’s called “clutching at straws”.
I see you apparently haven’t figured out how this ALWAYS works. Just as we dumbed-down education to accommodate minorities who can’t or won’t learn, the military would be forced to lower its physical training standards to accommodate them.
Once homosexual status is given the imprimatur of formal acceptance, the lowering of standards to accommodate them will begin. It’s the same way unions operate. They get their foot in the door and then they start suing and/or striking to get the work conditions, privileges, benefits and lowered productivity standards they want.
That really isn’t true. There are many queer sports leagues and there are plenty of women’s sports that are almost all dykes. That Canadian women’s hockey team looked to be at least half dyke, and women’s basketball and tennis are swarming with them. As for male queers being uncoordinated, have you ever watched male figure skaters or danseurs (male ballerina)? Are you aware that queers have their own rodeo circuit?
They aren’t uncoordinated at all. Disgusting, yes, uncoordinated, no.
Maybe the best thing to do would be to let the queers take over the military. Ahmanutjob, Al-Queda and Kim Jong Il can take it from there. Problem solved.
The Spartans were homosexuals and the best soldiers in the ancient world....just say’n :-)
Disagree with Ron Paul’s political views and some of his nutty supporters all you want, but if by “RuPaul” that’s who you mean: he served for 5 years as a flight surgeon in the United States Air Force during the 1960’s. Not too many Congressman have served in any capacity.
Do we have the best military in the world? Yes or no. If yes, if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. End of story.
“I really believe that nothing would change”
Perhaps.
But maybe not. Why risk it?
Besides, open homosexuals being deployed to countries and regions where homosexuality is punished by death (think mid-east). Many of those countries do not have a SOFA protecting the servicemen (Saudi is one). So, they are subject to arrest and prosecution and there is nothing we can do about it. . .except remove them from deployments to the worst areas, causing the heterosexuals to pick up the slack and shoulder greater risk.
We would have to remove them from deployment because if they are found prancing about they can be legitimately arrested and prosecuted for breaking their laws and customs, and we are to be sensitive and ‘respect’ their turd-world laws and culture, aren’t we?
Besides, isn’t this what the left wants, our servicemen to be subject to local laws?
And we are supposed to stand fast over that?
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