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A Philosopher Stares at "Stares at Goats"
sciencemag ^ | November 6, 2009 | Greg Miller

Posted on 11/08/2009 2:09:06 PM PST by JoeProBono

In the new movie The Men Who Stare at Goats, which opens today in the United States, George Clooney plays a former member of a secret sect of soldiers trained by the U.S. military to deploy a host of paranormal weapons against the enemy. Their deadly talents supposedly include the ability to kill a goat via psychokinesis—by staring at the beast they can make its heart stop with thought alone.

The movie takes some liberties in the name of comedy, but the program it's based on is real. During the Cold War, the U.S. military became convinced it was losing the "mind race" against the Soviet Union, and as recently as the late 1980s was investigating a range of paranormal phenomenon and their potential uses in espionage and combat, says Jonathan Moreno, a philosopher at the University of Pennsylvania who studies military applications of cognitive science.

For more details, Moreno referred me to a 1988 National Research Council report on enhancing human performance. According to the report, some military decision makers believed that extrasensory perception ("if real and controllable") could prove valuable for intelligence gathering, while psychokinesis could find an even wider range of uses, from jamming enemy computers or weapons, planting thoughts in individuals without their knowledge, or even killing enemies at a distance. And that's not all.

The report says: "One suggested application is a conception of the 'First Earth Battalion,' made up of 'warrior monks,' who will have mastered almost all the techniques under consideration by the committee, including the use of ESP, leaving their bodies at will, levitating, psychic healing, and walking through walls." This is the elite squad Clooney's character belonged to.

Moreno says that as far as he knows the military has abandoned its research into the paranormal. These days, he says, they're more interested in the fruits of neuroscience research—cognitive-enhancing drugs to keep soldiers sharp, for example, or brain-machine interfaces that could take over a plane if the pilot becomes incapacitated.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; TV/Movies; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: film; jpb; moviereview; movies; paranormal; psychicspies; psychokinesis; remoteviewing; staresatgoats; stargate


1 posted on 11/08/2009 2:09:08 PM PST by JoeProBono
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To: JoeProBono

Goats who stare.

2 posted on 11/08/2009 2:14:32 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Play the Race Card -- lose the game.)
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To: JoeProBono

George Clooney aside, this movie looks freaking HILARIOUS!


3 posted on 11/08/2009 2:16:23 PM PST by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: JoeProBono

Clooneys involvement means I will never see this film.


4 posted on 11/08/2009 2:17:23 PM PST by I am bigjohn
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To: JoeProBono

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SreufFevUSw


5 posted on 11/08/2009 2:17:47 PM PST by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: JoeProBono

“Space: Above and Beyond” did an episode on this premise.


6 posted on 11/08/2009 2:18:04 PM PST by Tax-chick (My taxes pay Anoreth's salary or Dad's pension.)
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To: JoeProBono
I watched the movie on Friday night.

Save your money at the boxoffice.

Typical Hollywood anti-military establishment liberal eye candy.

7 posted on 11/08/2009 2:18:04 PM PST by sonofagun
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To: JoeProBono

I recall that a remote viewer (clairovoyant) was brought in to find General Dozier in the 80’s after he was kidnapped by leftist terrorists. Its reported he was amazingly accurate.


8 posted on 11/08/2009 2:18:19 PM PST by KC_Conspirator (u)
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To: JoeProBono

A person who has become a true psychic weapon could not only affect matter and energy from afar, he or she could probably “hack reality” to the point of causing people, places, and events to simply “not be”.


9 posted on 11/08/2009 2:22:31 PM PST by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: autumnraine


10 posted on 11/08/2009 2:24:03 PM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: goat granny; JoeProBono
GG if you lived closer, I'd treat you to this movie. It looks fun.


11 posted on 11/08/2009 2:24:09 PM PST by Daffynition (What's all this about hellfire and Dalmatians?)
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To: Daffynition

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=we9_CdNPuJg

fainting goats is a well know phenomenon.

Hollywood idiocy!!!


12 posted on 11/08/2009 2:25:53 PM PST by sodpoodle (Never give up- Keep Up!!!)
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To: sonofagun
Saw it last night. Agree. Save your money. Wait til it comes on cable if you want to see.
13 posted on 11/08/2009 2:26:19 PM PST by janipa
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To: sonofagun
Typical Hollywood anti-military establishment liberal eye candy.

Exactly.

Out of the vast multitude of activities engaged in by the military in the last 50 years, the Hollyweirdos look for anything, no matter how obscure or insignificant, that can be used to make the U.S. armed forces look ridiculous, and make that into a Hollywood feature film.

So when is the big budget Hollywood blockbuster coming out that will pay tribute to the incredible bravery, courage, sacrifice and determination shown by our service personnel in the Battle of Fallujah, or the fall of Iraq, or the fall of Afghanistan? Don't hold your breath.

Hollywood is scum.

14 posted on 11/08/2009 2:26:44 PM PST by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: I am bigjohn
Ditto that big John....

After last night, I might by soap, pit juice and underwear if they are lucky. If not, I smell about the same as the Masters Degree Students in Women's Studies or Political Science at a Liberal University.

15 posted on 11/08/2009 2:27:56 PM PST by taildragger (Palin/Mulally 2012)
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To: JoeProBono
Then there are the men who stare lovingly at goats...


16 posted on 11/08/2009 2:29:25 PM PST by Hegemony Cricket (The emperor has no pedigree.)
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To: JoeProBono

Clooney looks like he could play Hitler. I will not voluntarily see anything this self-absorbed POS smug-butt does.


17 posted on 11/08/2009 2:34:01 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: JoeProBono
During the Cold War, the U.S. military became convinced it was losing the "mind race" against the Soviet Union,...

I frankly doubt this. I think the operative philosophy was "It's all a load of BS ... but what if it's not?" So might as well cover all bases. I'm sure that those who pushed for these programs drew the analogy to the funding of various wild schemes in WWII, some of which did pay dividends. I'm thinking of Jasper Maskelyne, who came up with various large scale misdirections in the Mediterranean theater. These were in the realm of trickery and deception, of course, and far from invoking the paranormal. And note the caveat in the cited article!

18 posted on 11/08/2009 2:34:44 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: JoeProBono

And then there’s Barney Frank, who stares at goatse.


19 posted on 11/08/2009 2:35:46 PM PST by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: sodpoodle

>”fainting goats is a well know phenomenon.”

My brother-in-law has a small herd of these. Great entertainment when drinking beer on a Sunday afternoon.


20 posted on 11/08/2009 2:38:57 PM PST by scoobysnak71
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To: scoobysnak71

>> My brother-in-law has a small herd of these. Great entertainment when drinking beer on a Sunday afternoon.

Goats that drink beer will never be welcome at my place. I don’t care how entertaining they are.


21 posted on 11/08/2009 2:50:41 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Stop dissing drunken sailors! At least they spend their OWN money.)
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To: Daffynition

22 posted on 11/08/2009 2:56:52 PM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: Daffynition

LOL looks like my adult children when I get angry..


23 posted on 11/08/2009 2:59:11 PM PST by goat granny
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To: JoeProBono

Will it work on Pelosi?


24 posted on 11/08/2009 3:08:07 PM PST by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: JoeProBono

25 posted on 11/08/2009 3:17:30 PM PST by Daffynition (What's all this about hellfire and Dalmatians?)
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To: goat granny
It's there always one kid who deserves your wrath more than the others?


26 posted on 11/08/2009 3:19:06 PM PST by Daffynition (What's all this about hellfire and Dalmatians?)
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To: Secret Agent Man
Clooney looks like he could play Hitler. I will not voluntarily see anything this self-absorbed POS smug-butt does.
I was just thinking how very closely he resembles Hitler. Two passes with the trimmer and voila, Der Fuhrer.
27 posted on 11/08/2009 3:22:10 PM PST by Trod Upon (Obama: Making the Carter malaise look good. Misery Index in 3...2...1)
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To: I am bigjohn

Nope, Dont watch Clooney the Leftist Looney movies.


28 posted on 11/08/2009 3:30:18 PM PST by Venturer
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To: JoeProBono

Clooney has made it pretty clear he doesn’t like me or anything I believe in.

He can watch his own movies.


29 posted on 11/08/2009 3:36:18 PM PST by marron
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To: Daffynition
That is one of those "I wonder how he got here" goats.. Reminds me of that old saying "Up shits creek without a paddle"....

When I had a bottle baby goat I use to buy goats milk from a gal near by that raised milk goats...Went there once and she had a goat on her roof....she just shook her head and said it was up to him to find a way down..

30 posted on 11/08/2009 3:39:44 PM PST by goat granny
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To: JoeProBono
U.S. and Soviet spooks studied paranormal powers to find a Cold War advantage

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2120873/posts

31 posted on 11/08/2009 3:41:24 PM PST by hennie pennie
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To: Daffynition
BWAHAHA!

Polka Goat

32 posted on 11/08/2009 3:42:59 PM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: TheMom

I suspect there is a certain goat that you would like to “stare” at. ;-)


33 posted on 11/08/2009 3:44:20 PM PST by Allegra (It doesn't matter what this tagline says...the liberals are going to call it "racist.")
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To: ClearCase_guy

LOL!!


34 posted on 11/08/2009 3:46:42 PM PST by Lizavetta
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To: Allegra

Hell yeah! I hate that damn goat.


35 posted on 11/08/2009 3:49:14 PM PST by TheMom (I'm now a grandma! Welcome to the world Kaiden Thomas.)
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To: Daffynition

Jar Jar Binks has taken up folk dancing? Always wondered what he’d do when the Star Wars gig was over.


36 posted on 11/08/2009 3:51:24 PM PST by sphinx
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To: goat granny

37 posted on 11/08/2009 4:08:17 PM PST by Daffynition (What's all this about hellfire and Dalmatians?)
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To: B-Chan

“A person who has become a true psychic weapon could not only affect matter and energy from afar, he or she could probably “hack reality” to the point of causing people, places, and events to simply “not be”.”

I think God might have a say in the matter.


38 posted on 11/08/2009 4:08:23 PM PST by dangerdoc
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To: JoeProBono
I love polka goat!


39 posted on 11/08/2009 4:09:34 PM PST by Daffynition (What's all this about hellfire and Dalmatians?)
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To: Daffynition


40 posted on 11/08/2009 4:24:41 PM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: JoeProBono
Horny?


41 posted on 11/08/2009 4:29:42 PM PST by Daffynition (What's all this about hellfire and Dalmatians?)
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To: dangerdoc
[B-Chan] "A person who has become a true psychic weapon could not only affect matter and energy from afar, he or she could probably 'hack reality' to the point of causing people, places, and events to simply 'not be'.”

[dangerdoc] I think God might have a say in the matter.

Obviously.

Consider this: if Reality is ultimately tied in with Mind (as quantum physics suggests), should it not be possible to manipulate Reality by manipulating Mind? See Ursula K. LeGuin's The Lathe of Heaven for terrifying examples.

42 posted on 11/08/2009 4:57:26 PM PST by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: Trod Upon; Secret Agent Man
In this one he looks like Dennis Farina.
43 posted on 11/08/2009 5:51:28 PM PST by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus)
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To: B-Chan
The politicians would use it before the military.

By the way, a circle has no end. There is no second foundation.

Cheers!

44 posted on 11/08/2009 7:01:42 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Nervous Tick

>”Goats that drink beer will never be welcome at my place”

But, its an excellent way to marinate the meat...


45 posted on 11/10/2009 3:30:50 AM PST by scoobysnak71
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