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Wild horse defenders criticize plan to manage mustangs, urge removal of cattle (Econut Alert)
Minneapolis Star-Tribune ^ | October 17, 2009 | Martin Griffith AP

Posted on 10/17/2009 5:22:27 PM PDT by jazusamo

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To: Lurker
There's a simple solution to your problem. It's called the "For Sale" sign.

That is so true. The other day I was feeling so bad about the poor animals and then I went into WalMart. I am not kidding, I saw a woman from Burma with Food stamps and she and her extended family were buying what looked like an entire slaughtered animal laying on the check out counter. I never saw so much bloody meat in my life! It looked like at least a half of a poor pig and the best cuts of a poor cow. I thought to myself, I am fighting a loosing battle because here I am trying to cut down and not even eat any meat in goulash and these foreigners are being given food stamps to come in here and feed their entire 25 person family every cut of meat under the sun. I really feel like I am fighting a loosing battle. I am paying taxes so that these foreigners can gorge on slaugtered animals while I am eating pasta. The food stamp immigrants are living LARGE on the US taxpayer.

41 posted on 10/17/2009 7:46:31 PM PDT by GinaLolaB
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To: GinaLolaB
The food stamp immigrants are living LARGE on the US taxpayer.

On that you and I can agree. I'm sick and tired of slackers living off my labors.

L

42 posted on 10/17/2009 7:48:30 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: mickey finn

You are simply not getting it: we have forbidden the consumption of horse meat, and we have forbidden the slaughter of horses, therefore, we must warehouse them . . . but we can’t give them away to someone who wants them . . . therefore, again, the government must solve this intractable problem.


43 posted on 10/17/2009 7:50:37 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: mickey finn

I agree. I’m not for getting rid of all the horses on public land but there’s way too many.

IMO, Congress should repeal the laws they’ve recently passed and allow horses to be slaughtered for human consumption and the meat sold in Europe. If people here want to eat it, all the better and it’ll be another market for it.

The BLM are corraling and feeding those horses with our tax dollars and it’s ridiculous, there’s too many horses.


44 posted on 10/17/2009 7:53:02 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo
I just think it is too easy for the animal lovers to let the “cuddle factor” get in the way of good wildlife management. We have more cougar than ever before, wolf packs forming, and soon our deer and elk herds are going to be hurting if it is managed by a bunch of geranimal wearing treehuggers. Sensible management without input from PETA and the gang is needed.

I sighted in my rifle today for our elk hunt in the Murderers Creek unit that starts on the 26th. I bet I see my first wolf footprint this year.

45 posted on 10/17/2009 8:11:18 PM PDT by mickey finn
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To: jazusamo

Unmanaged wild horses are basically range maggots.

Pro horse nuts are intellectual maggots.

‘Nuff said.

Oh, I forgot - “EAT MORE HORSE”.


46 posted on 10/17/2009 8:16:05 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: 1rudeboy

“Oh, btw, beef producers . . . check the price of beef, lately? You don’t need the land, either.”

Wrong - WE need the beef producers.

Whacko types produce no food, in case you haven’t noticed.

PS Given the price of arm length rubber gloves, it would be cost prohibitive to even try to dress and clean one of those things.

;-)


47 posted on 10/17/2009 8:20:29 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: GinaLolaB

“God help the poor cows that have been used for milk and then sent the slaughter. God help them!”

Gina - call on the Holy Cow.

;-)


48 posted on 10/17/2009 8:23:08 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: mickey finn

I absolutely agree. There are far too many emotional animal lovers getting involved in the management of wildlife, I believe they’re even some in higher positions in state game depts now and that’s pathetic.

The reintroduction of the wolf is a huge mistake, IMO. It’s going to hurt deer and elk herds a lot. Our wildlife did fine for the better part of a century without wolves but the furry animal lovers and econuts think we need them for the ecosystem, I say wrong.

I haven’t hunted in a few years due to health . I have never hunted the Murderers Creek unit, we always hunted the Silvies unit which abuts it. Good buck hunting and about 25 or 30 years ago the elk showed up so we didn’t want them to overpopulate and started hunting them also. :-)

It wouldn’t surprise me if you do see your first wolf print and good luck to you on your elk hunt.


49 posted on 10/17/2009 8:32:48 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: GladesGuru
Oh, I forgot - “EAT MORE HORSE”.

LOL! I've never had the occasion to try it or I would have and you're right, unmanaged wild horses are good for nothing.

50 posted on 10/17/2009 8:35:56 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: GladesGuru

“Oh, I forgot - “EAT MORE HORSE”.

Horse, it is what’s for dinner tonight.


51 posted on 10/17/2009 9:09:21 PM PDT by mickey finn
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To: GinaLolaB

>>”The food stamp immigrants are living LARGE on the US taxpayer.”

Like feral horses, right? Rounded up and put in pens and fed on YOUR tax dollars. They too, are non-native; they too, are non-producrive.

As to horses, every one that lives eventually dies. Then they become food for something else; maybe humans, maybe cougars, maybe coyotes, maybe just worms and ants.

Would you prefer that these horses have a quick, relatively painless death, and thus feed humans, or would you prefer that they die of starvation, or wolves, or infected wounds or a broken leg?

Death eventually visits EVERY feral horse. Does that death become a pleasant dream, only if it does not benefit humans?

DG


52 posted on 10/17/2009 9:15:08 PM PDT by DoorGunner ("Rom 11: until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in; 26 and so, all Israel will be saved")
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To: GladesGuru
I didn't say we need fewer beef producers, I simply said they don't need more land. And if they want it anyway, they should pay for it . . . not all ranchers are babies sucking on the government teat, but some are.
53 posted on 10/18/2009 6:12:26 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: bitterohiogunclinger

Palamino, the other other other white meat?


54 posted on 10/18/2009 6:25:47 AM PDT by flowerplough ( Pennsylvania today - New New Jersey meets North West Virginia.)
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To: 1rudeboy

Given the low productivity per acre, and the commie money designated for ranch removal, lease buy up, etc., I am of the opinion that keeping the presnet system, minus all enviro whacko influence, is the best choice.

What I would really like is seeing all Federal lands sold with some use restrictions, such as ranching and farming must be allowable uses, no tax exemption possible (EVER!) as GangGreen repellent.


55 posted on 10/18/2009 8:28:40 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: 1rudeboy
This morning I looked up the plan proposed by Pickens and it seems to me though I know little about it that it still saddles taxpayers with footing the bill for thousands of horses forever.

I personally believe the numbers have to be curtailed drastically and the obvious way to do that is thinning them greatly at the outset and have an ongoing plan to keep the numbers at a level where our taxes are not going for their care.

Here's a BLM statement (updated 5-22-09) re it and there's probably many more.

BLM Statement regarding Madeleine Pickens' Wild Horse Sanctuary Proposal

56 posted on 10/18/2009 11:33:27 AM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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