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Taking the pill for last 40 years 'has put women off masculine men' (new study...no evidence yet)
The Daily Mail (U.K.) ^ | October 7, 2009 | David Derbyshire

Posted on 10/07/2009 11:47:34 AM PDT by Stoat

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To: Buckeye McFrog
and it hit the market just about the time John Wayne’s career was ending and Alan Alda’s was taking off...it all makes sense to me now...

Few people make me run to find the remote and switch the channel faster than Alan Alda.

61 posted on 10/07/2009 1:01:41 PM PDT by Stoat (Sarah Palin 2012: A Strong America Through Unapologetic Conservatism)
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To: Stoat

I agree with you completely!

Most women nowadays don’t realize that Marilyn Monroe was a size 14—then! I’m sure the guys are well aware of that fact! LOL

Have you ever seen pre Hollywood photos of Marilyn? She was drop dead gorgeous and they ruined her.

Ladies were the women in the movies of the 40’s. Not what passes for ladies now. Women, maybe, but not ladies.


62 posted on 10/07/2009 1:02:46 PM PDT by gardengirl
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To: andy58-in-nh

“Nonetheless, it seems like every other TV commercial (and many programs as well) features a “couple” of whom the female is invariably smart and sassy and “with-it”; she’s impossibly up-to-date with every new trend, idea and gadget; she can conduct a high-level business meeting in a power suit, then go home and cook a gourmet dinner before doing three loads of laundry, exercising at the gym and coming home late to work on her third novel before running out to give a speech at the UN in the morning.”

I was thinking about that very thing while watching a movie this weekend. Not particularly about women, but about the people in general. They could do all of that while still only getting up at 7 am and cooking a full breakfast on a work day!


63 posted on 10/07/2009 1:08:21 PM PDT by CSM (Business is too big too fail... Government is too big to succeed... I am too small to matter...)
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To: gardengirl

Some women also say the size 14 was equivilant to size 6 now. Who to believe?


64 posted on 10/07/2009 1:08:28 PM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: Stoat
I never took the pill, and due to a medical emergency while still in my 20’s, I had a hysterectomy. I've never been attracted to “girlie men”. Wonder what a study of women with hysterectomies would show.
65 posted on 10/07/2009 1:09:14 PM PDT by DejaJude
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To: SandWMan

Remember how hot women thought the hair band guys were?


66 posted on 10/07/2009 1:09:45 PM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: Skip Ripley
Bisexuality became so fashionable for women because if you’re gonna get busy with a woman, it might as well be a real one. :)

There is some truth in that observation, but I prefer to think of it as part of our modern cultural continuum which rejects "the normal" as it deconstructs the very idea of value. A prominent manifestation of that effort is to celebrate the weird, the bizarre and the perverse.

And so homosexuality is cheered and its exemplars promoted in only the most positive light, while "traditional families" are scorned. Gays on TV and in the movies are almost uniformly warm, sensitive, kind, thoughtful and funny people. In real life, some of them really are those things, but that's not the point.

For their part, the bad guys are often, well guys - traditional masculine types who drive black pickup trucks and drink beer (as opposed to Priuses and Chardonnay). They physically and/or emotionally hurt the women in their lives, who run (of course) to their girlfriends for comfort - which I suspect is no accident.

It is no accident, either that many New York and Hollywood scriptwriters are as gay as... well, if not "Macauley Culkin singing show tunes" than perhaps Liberace in a gold jumpsuit throwing kisses to Calvin Klein. It does explain a lot.

67 posted on 10/07/2009 1:11:41 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: gardengirl
when I hear Sean Connery or John Wayne or ... Benjamin Netanyahu.
68 posted on 10/07/2009 1:15:38 PM PDT by Tax-chick (There is no "I" in "Tejano conjunto." It's all about the mission.)
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To: a fool in paradise
It was the case in the 1950s too when they tried to push off rockers like Chuck Berry and Jerry Lee Lewis and Gene Vincent for homosexual poster idols like Tab Hunter and Sal Mineo. While the women were taught to swoon over Liberace and Rock Hudson.

That's an astute observation, in that the entertainment world has long been biased toward Gay idylls and themes. In the 50's though, no one really took it seriously - it was just considered "camp" and caberet material. The women certainly did not swoon over Liberace, although apparently, Rock Hudson did.

69 posted on 10/07/2009 1:16:44 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: Tax-chick; gardengirl
when I hear Sean Connery or John Wayne or ... Benjamin Netanyahu.

Woohoo, the trifecta!

70 posted on 10/07/2009 1:19:20 PM PDT by DejaJude
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To: andy58-in-nh
The women certainly did not swoon over Liberace

Lee received most of his fan mail from lovestruck (and clueless) old ladies, as did Paul Lynde.

71 posted on 10/07/2009 1:19:25 PM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: HungarianGypsy

I’ve heard that as well.

I don’t care anymore as long as my clothes fit and I don’t look like Jabba the Hut. :)


72 posted on 10/07/2009 1:19:37 PM PDT by gardengirl
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To: envisio

I swoon over Sam Elliot. I will turn up the radio just to hear the beer commercial he’s the spokesman for.


73 posted on 10/07/2009 1:20:10 PM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: andy58-in-nh

no, but get to the 70s and 80s they were all swooning over freddie mercury, elton john and david bowie.


74 posted on 10/07/2009 1:20:19 PM PDT by absolootezer0 (2x divorced, tattooed, pierced, harley hatin, meghan mccain luvin', smoker and pit bull owner..what?)
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To: Tax-chick

Don’t know that I ever heard him. I adore strong voices and manly men.


75 posted on 10/07/2009 1:21:31 PM PDT by gardengirl
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To: andy58-in-nh
Maybe not young women but from what I gather Grandmotherly types were enamored with him.
76 posted on 10/07/2009 1:22:24 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: Stoat

Hm.... Why does a woman think she needs to take the pill for 40 years?


77 posted on 10/07/2009 1:22:26 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: HungarianGypsy

Hubby gets a big kick out of my fascination with voices.

Charles Kuralt

James Earl Jones

Morgan Freeman

Don Williams


78 posted on 10/07/2009 1:31:42 PM PDT by gardengirl
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To: DejaJude

I’ll take either one of them, and I’ll have to find a recording of Netanyahu. :)


79 posted on 10/07/2009 1:34:17 PM PDT by gardengirl
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To: gardengirl
I’ll take either one of them, and I’ll have to find a recording of Netanyahu. :)

YouTube - netanyahu

80 posted on 10/07/2009 1:36:54 PM PDT by Stoat (Sarah Palin 2012: A Strong America Through Unapologetic Conservatism)
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