Posted on 09/29/2009 12:59:15 AM PDT by DGHoodini
I recently rewatched 'Angels in the Outfield', the original one, the *good* one, with Paul Muni. And the same question that comes to me each time I watch it, once agin came to mind, and I thought i'd asik here, to see if maybe someone knew the answer.
In the movie, there is at least one scene where the Manager(Munii) sits down to dinner, and puts Ketchup on it.... My question is...Was there a time where this was a common practice that some people did, or was this just a writers ploy to show how curmudgeonly the character was?
I have never before heard of anyone doing this, but thinking on it, it doesn't seem to be so bad an idea..I mean we put ketchup on burgers...but then it seems a waste to cover the flavor of a good steak up, with the overwhelming taste of ketchup...But it doesn't seem like it would taste *bad* per se...
Ooops! That was supposed to be: Puts ketchup on his steak.
It’s always been used for meatloaf and stuff.
That’s Paul Douglas. Paul Muni was a Jewish ethnic actor who did more stage than movies.
You need to get out more. Many people put ketchup on almost everything. A new fad now is putting Ranch dressing on everything.
Paul Muni? You sure you don’t mean Paul Douglas?
Or is Muni in it, too? Paul Douglas certainly is.
It was a very plebeian thing to do, even in 1947. That was the point—to show he was a mensch.
Yeah, by cracky, I remember, ohhhhh....way back before the turn of the century, back in 96. Put ketchup on Omlettes, Steak, Meatloaf, French Fries, Sweet and Sour Chicken, Green Beans, Mashed Potatoes, Baked Potatoes, Fried Rice, hell, even tried it on a burger once.
Yep, them were the good old days.....
I put ketchup, A-1 and Heinz 57 on my steaks (unless they’re very expensive/good) as I HATE dry food. My wife calls me the “Condiment King” and I grab extra packets of honey mustard, ketchup, mayonnaise, etc. at every store & restaurant. Put lots of butter on rice, potatoes, noodles, etc., too.
I like A-1 on my baked potato, along with salt, pepper, bacon, cheese and lots of butter.
As for the ketchup, as best I remember ketchup was like salt and pepper, you never set a table without it and someone always used it and yes Heinz was hellish hard to get out of the bottle, Mom switched to Del Monte but we always came back to Heinz, squeeze bottles ruined ketchup or catsup as some say.
You’re right. I was referring to Paul Douglas. :o\
My only excuse is that I also watched ‘Angel on My Shoulder’ recently too. I’ve been buying all sorts of old movie DVDs from the Half.com bargain bin for a couple of years now, and every once in a while I find a gem. But I think I paid full price for ‘..Outfield’.
The mystique of ketchup was getting it out of the bottle, Heinz had it right with their "Anticipation" series of commercials.
You’re right, of course. Muni was great in ‘..Shoulder’, with thowse black shining eyes of his...He really came off as a dark character. That was entertainment. Still is, in my DVD collection. just got it, this year, and watched it just a month or so ago. :o)
San Simeon was party central for Hollywood in the 1930s and Hearst insisted bottles of ketchup be placed on the huge main dining room table.
I’m not a big Ranch fan...it’s good for salads and veggie dip I suppose...But it really irks me when I order Buffalo Wings and they come with Ranch Dressing...It just ruins them for me.
Definately A-1 on the baked potato. When I order a good steak and ask for A-1, I am occasionally informed by the server that the steak is good enough without it. I always hate that. I like A-1 on my steak, but mostly it is for the baked potato. Great stuff, one of the few food items that actually has a lot of really bold flavor...JFK
You know, I may be weird on this, but I like to eat some of my meat plain, enjoy it without condiment, and eat the rest with it. I’ll eat a bite of plain steak or two, and I’ll eat the rest with A-1. Same with chicken fingers and hot mustard or barbeque sauce. I usually eat one of them plain. I like distinct flavors in my food, which is why I usually eat one item at a time. I don’t like mixing my corn and mashed potatoes or anything. Even when I mix condiments or spices, it’s to get a certain flavor. Everything I cook is by taste, too.
We switched from Heinz to Hunts during the 2004 election thanks to "Mother Tuh-Ray-Suh Heinz-Kerry." Won't use DelMonte due to San Fran Nan and her husband's connections.
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