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Navy Set to Crew Subs with Female Sailors
Military.com ^ | September 25, 2009 | Christian Lowe

Posted on 09/25/2009 3:03:16 PM PDT by Drrdot

Breaking with a tradition that spans more than half a century, the Navy is in the final planning stages to integrate female Sailors into its submarine fleet. Long considered one of the most elite communities in the U.S. Navy, the small, secretive force has been comprised entirely of male officers and crew in large part because of the small living spaces and long endurance missions. The service had examined assigning a small number of females on subs over the last ten years, but found the tight confines and lack of a well-defined career path for female submariners too daunting to change. Until now. According to a senior commander in the Navy's submarine fleet who spoke to Military.com on condition of anonymity, incoming Secretary of the Navy Ray Mabus has charged the service with overcoming past objections and assigning females to subs -- breaking down one of the last barriers in the service to female assignments. "We have now received a signal from the secretary of the Navy that he's ready to move out on this. We have never had that signal before," the senior sub commander said.

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TOPICS: Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: crotchpolitics; militarywomen; nowomenincombat; obamasnavy; sub; submarine; usnavy
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1 posted on 09/25/2009 3:03:18 PM PDT by Drrdot
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To: Drrdot
What a grand idea.

I have always believed, being a veteran, that the nation that puts its women in combat situations isn't worth defending.

Our nation has been losing ground for decades and it took an African-African, Muslim-Communist to complete the job of killing America.

2 posted on 09/25/2009 3:06:27 PM PDT by IbJensen (If Catholic voters were true to their faith there would be no abortion and no President Obama.)
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To: Drrdot

Ah . . . a new twist on the Love Boat thing. . . .


3 posted on 09/25/2009 3:07:35 PM PDT by RatRipper (I'll ride a turtle to work every day before I buy anything from Government Motors.)
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To: Drrdot
I know they're are a bunch of jokes just waiting to be written from this announcement...
4 posted on 09/25/2009 3:07:47 PM PDT by apillar
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To: Drrdot

Next they’ll allow women to try for the SEALs.


5 posted on 09/25/2009 3:10:47 PM PDT by wastedyears (The best aid we could ever give Africa would be thousands of rifles to throw out their own dictators)
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To: Drrdot
Old news.


6 posted on 09/25/2009 3:10:50 PM PDT by iowamark (certified by Michael Steele as "ugly and incendiary")
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To: Drrdot
espn anchor, working on sub:


7 posted on 09/25/2009 3:11:07 PM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: RatRipper

More like a lot of Military Sexual Trauma ...already this has been a problem that has increased. I wonder what the rate of MST is in the Israeli army or if they handle their female military in a different way?


8 posted on 09/25/2009 3:13:44 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Pray for Israel! And Georgia ! And the Iranian people! and Honduras!)
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To: Drrdot

Join the Navy, ride the WAVES.


9 posted on 09/25/2009 3:15:36 PM PDT by Perdogg (Sarah Palin-Jim DeMint 2012 - Liz Cheney for Sec of State - Duncan Hunter SecDef)
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To: Perdogg

Navy wives will just love this!


10 posted on 09/25/2009 3:19:22 PM PDT by RanGreHad
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To: RanGreHad

No, they won’t.

HOWEVER, I can see an all female-crewed boomer perhaps, or something like that. I just can’t figure on a mixed crewed attack sub. It should be all one or the other.

Best,

Chris


11 posted on 09/25/2009 3:21:27 PM PDT by section9
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To: Drrdot
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12 posted on 09/25/2009 3:25:02 PM PDT by digger48
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To: IbJensen

” have always believed, being a veteran, that the nation that puts its women in combat situations isn’t worth defending.”

Where do you intend emigrate to if this comes to pass?


13 posted on 09/25/2009 3:26:27 PM PDT by verity (Obama Lies)
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To: apillar
"I know they're are a bunch of jokes just waiting to be written from this announcement..."

Indeed. Most involving "torpedoes".

14 posted on 09/25/2009 3:27:58 PM PDT by LiberConservative
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To: wastedyears
Next they’ll allow women to try for the SEALs.

Why not. As long as they keep the same physical requirements and the women have to survive BUD/S, just like the men.

15 posted on 09/25/2009 3:29:54 PM PDT by reg45 (Be calm everyone. The idiot children are in charge!)
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To: reg45
Optimist...
16 posted on 09/25/2009 3:32:23 PM PDT by PIF
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To: Drrdot
I guess we won't be able to tell that old joke:

What is long, round, and full of seamen?

Answer: A submarine.

now that Admiral Mullen wants to put seawomen onboard.

17 posted on 09/25/2009 3:38:20 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel (I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: verity
” have always believed, being a veteran, that the nation that puts its women in combat situations isn’t worth defending.”

I DISAGREE: The women in the I. D. F. are among the best in the world and their country (Israel) is certainly worth defending.

18 posted on 09/25/2009 3:40:18 PM PDT by reg45 (Be calm everyone. The idiot children are in charge!)
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To: reg45

I do hope you jest.

Why? Why not ask God why women and men are different? I’m sure women have no problem not PMS’ing, or bleeding right? Maybe we’ll just give them special drugs to make them more man like ehh? Some testosterone injections to give them more upper-body strength? Help them hump 75lbs 10 miles?

This is just more of the same. Watering down of hard physically demanding jobs that put more work on the men in the crew. Why don’t you go tell a dock worker or warehouse person about this and see who moves more boxes or weight. There are fundamental differences that can’t be overcome, yet people still want to put round pegs in square holes. Or perhaps the woman will bat her eyelashes and have the men carry the weight for her that should help.

Men, don’t see women the same as men. They treat them special and naturally try to protect them. Take that into account when you’re in a fox hole, or other. Will a man instinctually be stupid tactically for a woman?

With all the other jobs in the Navy why should we make special consignments for so few? Even if their were some women who may make the cut... we are talking about so few why are we bothering? To be “Fair” for what?

This is just insanity plane and simple.

Women won’t maintain the same level of fitness as a man and CAN NOT. Men out run women, out lift women, anything physical a top man will always outdo a top woman. See the gold medalist that handily beat the other “women” because of a gender issue...


19 posted on 09/25/2009 3:43:30 PM PDT by light-bulb (Plures efficimur quotiens metimur a vobis; semen est sanguis Christianorum)
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To: LiberConservative
Imagine being trapped in a tin can with a dozen women ... all in sync?

Could be fun for the first few weeks as they compete for attention, but then Hell has no greater wrath than a woman scorned. The ship will explode!!!

20 posted on 09/25/2009 3:45:37 PM PDT by PA-RIVER
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