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What happened to abolishing the Department of Education?

Posted on 05/06/2009 1:26:18 PM PDT by Conservative Coulter Fan

The GOP platform in 1996 stated: "The Federal government has no constitutional authority to be involved in school curricula or to control jobs in the market place. This is why we will abolish the Department of Education." President Bush let Ted Kennedy write his education bill and he outspent Bill Clinton. I wonder what happened to undoing Roe v. Wade...what happened to getting rid of AMTRAK? It seems to me that the GOP abandoned limited government during 8 years of George Bush and now with a full blown socialist like Obama...is Conservatism politically dead? In 1962, a Madison Square Garden arena was filled with 18,000 conservatives and Goldwater predicted a wave of conservatism, but it is impossible to imagine 18,000 conservatives gathering in Madison Square Garden today.


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1 posted on 05/06/2009 1:26:18 PM PDT by Conservative Coulter Fan
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan
What happened to abolishing the Department of Education?

The GOP took full control of the federal government and decided that big government was fine as long as the GOP was in control of it.

2 posted on 05/06/2009 1:28:26 PM PDT by Ron Jeremy (sonic)
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To: Ron Jeremy
The GOP took full control of the federal government and decided that big government was fine as long as the GOP was in control of it.

That's pretty much it. At least some folks get it.

3 posted on 05/06/2009 1:31:22 PM PDT by cizinec (The truth is . . . . . 127!)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan
The GOP platform in 1996 stated: "The Federal government has no constitutional authority to be involved in school curricula or to control jobs in the market place. This is why we will abolish the Department of Education."

Trivia question: Who was the first U.S. President to propose federal aid to public schools in the states? Which provision of the Constitution did he rely on?

Answer: Eisenhower; and he relied on the provision empowering Congress to "raise and support Armies." (The first federal aid to public schools was the "National Defense Education Act," which was claimed to be necessary to provide a population sufficiently educated to overcome Soviet technical accomplishments such as Sputnik).

4 posted on 05/06/2009 1:32:15 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: cizinec; All

You mean like the same promise that Reagan had too???


5 posted on 05/06/2009 1:33:16 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Now a member of the NRA)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

Just abolishing the Dept of Education or AMTRAK is no longer enough. The federal government’s growth is so far out of control that the States now face the prospect of systematically eliminating half of the federal government through a constitutional convention.

This means the end of Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, much of the National Intelligence structures, many cabinet departments, renouncing the national debt, creating a balanced budget amendment to the constitution, etc.

It also means reducing the jurisdiction and appellate authority of the federal courts, renouncing many international treaties and obligations, returning much of the US military currently deployed overseas, and returning most federal lands confiscated from the individual States.


6 posted on 05/06/2009 1:34:41 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Ron Jeremy
The GOP took full control of the federal government and decided that big government was fine as long as the GOP was in control of it.

Well said. In fact, Bush doubled the size of it.
7 posted on 05/06/2009 1:36:18 PM PDT by microgood
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To: Ron Jeremy

I guess they don’t mind being a minority party...as long as they control the remnant and get a few bread crumbs.


8 posted on 05/06/2009 1:38:23 PM PDT by Conservative Coulter Fan (I am defiantly proud of being part of the Religious Right in America.)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan
"18,000 conservatives gathering in Madison Square Garden today."

Well, over 1 Million Conservatives gathered for TEA Parties at town squares all over the country.

And I predict for the next round of TEA Parties, there will be 5 million.
9 posted on 05/06/2009 1:39:10 PM PDT by FroggyTheGremlim
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

Time for a Second Contract with America. Too bad Newt is too busy with the DC party circuit.


10 posted on 05/06/2009 1:39:24 PM PDT by FTJM
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan
"President Bush let Ted Kennedy write his education bill and he outspent Bill Clinton."

Question answered.

11 posted on 05/06/2009 1:39:47 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

Just a bunch of happy talk.


12 posted on 05/06/2009 1:40:34 PM PDT by devistate one four (I will run to the sound of gunfire! TET68)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan
The GOP platform in 1996 stated: "The Federal government has no constitutional authority to be involved in school curricula or to control jobs in the market place. This is why we will abolish the Department of Education."


That plank was dropped during the 2000 GOP Convention with pressure from the Bush Campaign. They blamed the GOP Class of 1994 for the government shut down and considered them to be too strident. Bush employed a Clinton-like "trianglation" strategy to position himself somewhere between the "Big Government" left and the "radicals" from the GOP Class of 1994. Anyone who was surprised by his big government governing style really was not paying attention to his campaign.
13 posted on 05/06/2009 1:40:54 PM PDT by rob777 (Personal Responsibility is the Price of Freedom)
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To: Lurking Libertarian
Well now there's something I never knew.
14 posted on 05/06/2009 1:41:06 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

A federal department of education was in the socialist platform in 1912.


15 posted on 05/06/2009 1:41:33 PM PDT by Conservative Coulter Fan (I am defiantly proud of being part of the Religious Right in America.)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

I think that is why they have abandoned support for conservatives and the GOP is going for the brand image as the “less bad” Socialist, er, moderate party.


16 posted on 05/06/2009 1:45:00 PM PDT by Leisler ("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged."~G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

>”National Defense Education Act,”

I have an idea... drop ALL federal funding of public schools EXCEPT specifically for firearms training classes... and the use of “assault rifles” should be encouraged, because they’re being taught as an aide to national defense.


17 posted on 05/06/2009 1:46:09 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: FTJM

And with sitting on the “global warming” couch with Pelosi.


18 posted on 05/06/2009 1:46:54 PM PDT by GunsareOK
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

...they don’t mind being a minority party....

If they get to play golf with the Dems every now and then.


19 posted on 05/06/2009 1:47:47 PM PDT by GunsareOK
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To: Ron Jeremy

“The GOP took full control of the federal government and decided that big government was fine as long as the GOP was in control of it. “

Thats about right. Years of wild spending and expanding government with Bush as the President and a Republican Congress kinda destroyed our credibility on fiscal issues.


20 posted on 05/06/2009 1:52:04 PM PDT by DemonDeac
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