Posted on 05/03/2009 6:15:12 AM PDT by spacejunkie01
touche’
From my perspective, Hal Lindsey didn’t prophesy, but he did review current events in the light of Scripture, and make very real associations of current events with Scriptural interpretations of Prophecy. There are quite a few things in Prophecy which while very true and yet to be fulfilled, are easily misinterpretted or partially correlated with current events.
Sometime in the future, the real events will match up perfectly with Prophecy, fulfilling it completely.
One important takeaway from the critiques of Lindsey, frequently levied by those who oppose his particular beliefs, before they oppose his correlation of current events to Scripture, is that Prophecy also provides us with an understanding of why some events will occur, when without such Prophecy they might cause a turning away from faith.
Nothing wrong with being a watchman on the wall, but discernment and daily intake of Bible doctrine is required to properly report watched events as they unfold without distracting from the glory of God they provide.
Its ok, I take no offense, you are entitled to your opinion. I put it in Gods hands with regard to how He will choose to chastise us for falling away. While I pointed out there would be much that would be difficult, I found this way preferable. How many will die in attacks and wars and famine and floods and droughts and pestilence and disease if there werent an EMP attack? Still seems like a staggering number either way, at least there would be less distractions and more focus on things that are truly important the EMP route vs. the current way.....
The problem is one of unintended consequences. You can't limit the damage to communications; power transmission and delivery and transportation would also be severely disrupted. Starvation, the dregs of the cities pouring into the countryside to take from the prepared, no heat, AC or lights...Figure a third of the population dead within 60 days, most of the rest barely surviving. Not pretty.
Not entirely true. The radical Islamists are willing to be destroyed while killing infidels because it assures them of their 72 virgins. They are not as rational as the Russians or Chinese.
GREAT POINTS.
GOOD INSIGHT.
GOOD SUGGESTION.
I hope you have your hazmat suit on . . . because of a list prissy pharisee types who love to shred Hal for a list of reasons. They seem to keep closets full of buckets of rocks reserved just for such purposes.
Thankfully, Hal has the connections and Biblical understanding to still be of value to the Body of Christ in these END TIMES—at least those with ears to hear and eyes to see.
However, pumping drinking water and sewer waters could be . . .
at least . . . helpful . . .
particularly against disease and all.
Yes, agreed. But from the sounds of many freepers on here, that is unavoidable anyway once inflation and all hits (Zibabwe).....
again, agreed. Not saying there wouldn’t be nasty fallout. I guess those with well/septic setups might be better off, as long as they either have a windmill to generate power for the well, or a hand pump to access the water as needed.
Not saying this would not be catastrophic, just saying Zimbabwe model isn’t any better.......
UNDERSTOOD....THX
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This is an article by Newt from March 29, 2009.
Newt Gingrich: A Single Nuke Could Destroy America
Sunday, March 29, 2009 4:23 PM
By: Newt Gingrich and William Forstchen Article Font Size
A sword of Damocles hangs over our heads. It is a real threat that has been all but ignored.
On Feb. 3, Iran launched a “communications satellite” into orbit. At this very moment, North Korea is threatening to do the same. The ability to launch an alleged communications satellite belies a far more frightening truth. A rocket that can carry a satellite into orbit also can drop a nuclear warhead over any location on the planet in less than 45 minutes.
Far too many timid or uninformed sources maintain that a single launch of a missile poses no true threat to the United States, given our retaliatory power.
A reality check is in order and must be discussed in response to such an absurd claim: In fact, one small nuclear weapon, delivered by an ICBM can destroy the United States by maximizing the effect of the resultant electromagnetic pulse upon detonation.
An electromagnetic pulse (EMP) is a byproduct of detonating an atomic bomb above the Earth’s atmosphere. When a nuclear weapon is detonated in space, the gamma rays emitted trigger a massive electrical disturbance in the upper atmosphere. Moving at the speed of light, this overload will short out all electrical equipment, power grids and delicate electronics on the Earth’s surface. In fact, it would take only one to three weapons exploding above the continental United States to wipe out our entire grid and transportation network. It might take years to recover from, if ever.
This is not science fiction. If you doubt this, spend a short amount of time skimming the Report of the Commission to Assess the Threat to the United States from Electromagnetic Pulse Attack from April 2008. You will come away sobered.
Even as the new administration plans to spend trillions on economic bailouts, it has announced plans to reduce funding and downgrade efforts for missile defense. Furthermore, the United States’ reluctance to invest in a modern and credible traditional nuclear deterrent is a serious concern. What good will a bailout be if there is no longer a nation to bail out?
Fifty years ago, it was not Sputnik itself that sent a dire chill of warning around the world; it was the capability of the rocket that launched Sputnik. The rocket that lofted Sputnik into orbit also could have served as an ICBM.
Yet for all its rhetoric, the Soviet Union was essentially a rational power that recognized the threat of mutual destruction and thus never stepped to the edge.
The world is different today. Intercontinental range missiles tipped with nuclear weapons in the hands of leaders driven by fanaticism, leaders that support global terrorism, leaders that have made repeated threats that they will seek our annihilation . . . can now at last achieve that dream in a matter of minutes.
Those who claim that there is little to fear from Iran or North Korea because “at best” they will have only one or two nuclear weapons ignore the catastrophic level of threat we now face from just “a couple” of nuclear weapons.
Again: One to three missiles tipped with nuclear weapons and armed to detonate at a high altitude — to achieve the strongest EMP over the greatest area of the United States — would create an EMP “overlay” that triggers a continent-wide collapse of our entire electrical, transportation, and communications infrastructure.
Within weeks after such an attack, tens of millions of Americans would perish. The impact has been likened to a nationwide Hurricane Katrina. Some studies estimate that 90 percent of all Americans might very well die in the year after such an attack as our transportation, food distribution, communications, public safety, law enforcement, and medical infrastructures collapse.
We most likely would never recover from the blow.
Two things need to be done now and without delay:
1. Make clear in the strongest of terms that, if either Iran or North Korea launches a rocket on a trajectory headed toward the territory of the United States, we will shoot it down. The risk of not doing so is beyond acceptable. And if they construe this as an act of war, so be it, for they fired the first shot. The risk of sitting back for 30 minutes and praying it is not an EMP strike is beyond acceptable, beyond rational on our part.
2. Funding for EMP defense must be a top national priority. To downgrade or halt our missile defense program, which at last is becoming viable after 25 years of research, would be an action of criminal negligence.
Surely, with such a threat confronting us, a fair and open debate, with full public access and the setting aside of partisan politics, is in order. In the meantime, a policy must be stated today that we will indeed shoot down any missile aimed towards the United States that is fired by Iran or North Korea. America’s survival, your survival, and your family’s survival might very well depend on it.
Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich is a Senior Fellow at the American Enterprise Institute. William Forstchen is the author of “One Second After,” an account of a town struggling to survive after an EMP weapon is used against the United States.
Ah...the good old days! No antibiotics or vaccines, crude dentistry, and graveyards well populated with young people.
Wasn’t it great!
It is clear that the Bible was right all along for those who are not resistant to the reality of the matter because of head strong prejudices and/or a need to believe that all thing always go on as they have.
The Bible predicted an anti Christ. Obama may not be the anti Christ but he is in the least an undeniably strong precursor to the fact that one is close at hand. People need to get real and read The Bible with a heart for The Truth and realize that it's prophesies ARE coming to past and quickly.
They believe in a final temple built in Jerusalem . A preacher named Lott in Mississippi is trying to breed the perfect red heifer for sacrifice. Give me a break. Jesus was and is and will always be the final sacrifice. That is a slap in the face to my Lord... I have no idea where people get the idea that a temple has to built. The Bible clearly states that our bodies are the temple of Christ..
1 Cr. 3:16. Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and [that] the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
The End Times thing is as old as the hills...... We are being punished for our sins. This nation has become an idolatress nation.... Money has become it's God.. Perhaps that is why the money is being taken away.... God will not be mocked...
thanks for your kind reply.
END TIMES B LIST PING
When an UNrubberized Bible becomes available, read and understood, please ping me.
Your post trashes a number of Scriptures and IIRC, even some assertions of Christ, Himself.
No, I won’t bother to give you the ref’s. You seem to be clearly convinced in your own mind. You are responsible to God, for that. Have fun trying to convince HIM how HIS SCRIPTURES had it all wrong.
I don’t pretend to defend Hal’s excesses and sins any more than I would yours or my own.
Thankfully, Christ’s Blood is sufficient. I’ve met Hal 35+ years ago over a small lunch at a Baptist church. There is an authenticity and congruence about him that I respect in spite of all his junk. I have no need to throw the baby out with the bath.
If anyone has an incapacity to realize that these are the REAL BIBLICAL END TIMES spoken of through so many prophetic Scriptures, all I can do is shake my head at the precarious cluelessness of such an UNBIBLICAL perspective.
SCRIPTURE IS CLEAR THAT THE 3RD TEMPLE WILL BE REBUILT—AFTER THE DISPERSAL AFTER CHRIST AND AFTER ISRAEL IS BROUGHT AGAIN TO BE A NATION AS IT WAS IN 1948 AND AFTER IT’S BEING DESTROYED IN 70AD.
The Anti-Christ—ruling the WORLD GOVERNMENT [you are aware that Kissenger, Soros, Brezenski et al are cheering that OThuga is the One to lead us into THAT horror, aren’t you???] to be established AFTER Israel returns to the Holy Land as a Nation again [You are aware that happened in 1948 precisely as Biblically predicted, right???] is described IN SCRIPTURE [check out THE ABOMINATION THAT MAKES DESLOATE] as setting up his image in the NEW TEMPLE’S HOLY OF HOLIES.
AT THAT POINT, the Israeli’s realize they’ve been snookered and that the Imposter is NOT their Messiah and flee as he slaughters them massively.
The folks I grew up with fascinated with Bible prophecy almost have those verses memorized. Sorry the rubber Bible is missing them.
THAT MUCH IS PLAIN JANE SCRIPTURE. Cluelessness about that is not an impressive marker of Biblical understanding.
Of course God will not be mocked.
Of course our bodies are temples of The Lord and Holy Spirit.
Doesn’t preclude a New Temple in Jerusalem in the least.
Sounds like someone is trying to squeeze God into a much too tiny little box.
I would never try to put God into a box..... He is everywhere... Always has been always will be... The Bible is a fulfilled prophecy.. I believe that with all my heart. Jesus my Lord is the finial sacrifice.
The whole Bible is a testament to the coming of Jesus. He reconciled man back unto God........There are no END TIMES.... The New Covenant is with out end.......
Glad you know WHO is your Salvation.
Cheers.
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