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Let's play "What If" - What if Rush DID start a conservative 3rd party?
Me | 3/2/09 | GeorgiaDawg32

Posted on 03/03/2009 5:21:17 AM PST by GeorgiaDawg32

I think we can all agree (perhaps not) the GOP has a long way to go to simply get to mediocre as far as conservative principles are concerned. RINO's abound and the GOP has become nothing more than "Democrat Light".

WHAT IF Rush does in fact start a conservative 3rd party, and his 20 million listeners immediately leave the GOP and join this new outfit. Let's also assume this happens in the next couple of weeks..

What are the implications for the '10 races?

What are the implications for the '12 race for President?

Wouldn't this simply split the GOP and hand '10 and '12 back to the democrats? (small "d", it's intentional) due to a split vote??

Would the new conservative party become large enough in the next 2 years to displace the GOP or at least have a major impact on the upcoming elections?

Who would lead? IOW, who are the current Republicans that we'd like to take with us, and who are the RINO's we'd leave on the bench with a pleasant, "Thanks but no thanks, we don't want you"?

The chances of this actually happening are somewhere between slim and none, IMO, and I believe I just saw slim climb on his horse and head out of town, but the time is coming, eventually, for a new conservative party. It's not a question of "if", but "when"..


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1 posted on 03/03/2009 5:21:17 AM PST by GeorgiaDawg32
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

Well if history guides us, that would pretty much guarantee democrat rule for the foreseeable future wouldn’t it?


2 posted on 03/03/2009 5:23:16 AM PST by refermech
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To: GeorgiaDawg32
Read any credible biography of President Lincoln, especially dealing with the formation of the Republican Party splitting away from the Whig Party.

That could be an example of what can be done in answer to your questions.

3 posted on 03/03/2009 5:25:18 AM PST by ProudFossil
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To: refermech

I don’t know..would this party have an immediate impact large enough to upset the apple cart?


4 posted on 03/03/2009 5:25:39 AM PST by GeorgiaDawg32 (A democrat will break your leg, then hand you a crutch and take credit for your being able to walk.)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

It may be that a 3rd party threat is the only way that conservatives can regain the respect of the Republican party again. I was saying this when McCain was nominated, and was corrected by many on this discussion board. So, I got on board with McCain for the General. I am not glad that I did. Had we stood our ground in a 3rd party, the RNC would be looking at how they lost the election because they didn’t have their base, not how they could have captured the “middleground” better.


5 posted on 03/03/2009 5:26:40 AM PST by DBCJR (What would you expect?)
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To: refermech

Perhaps.

Although with the current GOP, the choice is basically Democrat Lite and All-out Marxist.


6 posted on 03/03/2009 5:26:42 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: refermech

I’m not sure how RINO rule is any better.
At least the ‘Rats will tell what they are goin to break off in your office.
The Republicans lie about it and then don’t supply any lube.


7 posted on 03/03/2009 5:26:54 AM PST by arealconservativeforachange (Tell JD Hayworth to run for McCain's seat! http://www.jdhayworth.com/contact.php)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

If there were a Conservative party, I don’t think it ought to run a separate candidate for all races, which would split conservative votes and elect more Democrats. In races where the Republican candidate is awful, such as Maine (Senators Snowe and Collins), it ought to nominate its own candidate, and in places where the Republican incumbent is reasonable, it should endorse the incumbent.


8 posted on 03/03/2009 5:27:24 AM PST by reaganaut1
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To: ProudFossil

I think you’re right. The Republican party started this way and came to power rather rapidly. As far as I’m concerned, the GOP is dead. I’m just waiting to figure out which new political party deserves my money.


9 posted on 03/03/2009 5:27:43 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (American Revolution II -- overdue)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32
He couldn't form a 3rd party because we have only a one party Republicrat system.

Wouldn't this simply split the GOP and hand '10 and '12 back to the democrats?

What's to split? The Republican party split from Conservative principles long ago.
10 posted on 03/03/2009 5:27:51 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

We would have a party that would represent us. We would win the Presidency in 2012 or sooner and we would not get the good cop bad cop routine any more.


11 posted on 03/03/2009 5:27:51 AM PST by screaminsunshine (f)
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To: refermech

Better that then us supporting a bunch of hypocrites...


12 posted on 03/03/2009 5:28:07 AM PST by surfer
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To: ProudFossil

Yes, but wasn’t the real reason Lincoln won in 1860 was because it was a bizarre four-way election?


13 posted on 03/03/2009 5:29:22 AM PST by sinanju
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To: refermech
Well if history guides us, that would pretty much guarantee democrat rule for the foreseeable future wouldn’t it?

I think the Republican party has already seen to that! I've been saying this for the last few years, the sooner we get started on it - the sooner we can get back in power. The current RINOs that are running the GOP don't have a clue.

14 posted on 03/03/2009 5:30:46 AM PST by alicewonders (Sarah Palin is the face of America's future.)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32; PBRSTREETGANG
It's possible that a lot of people who have not voted for a long time would get active and support a Conservative Party. As PBRSTREETGANG says, the choices now are Democrat-Lite and All-out Marxist. We just don't really know how many people have sat on the sidelines and not bothered to vote but would get fired up about a true Conservative Party. Where is the Whig Party now? Nonexistent!
15 posted on 03/03/2009 5:34:12 AM PST by nanetteclaret (What if they created a crisis and nobody panicked?)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

SOLD!!!!

I’ve been voting for 3rd party POTUS candidates my entire life......except in 2000.

Be great to be able to vote for a viable candidate for a change......other than 2000.


16 posted on 03/03/2009 5:34:31 AM PST by ElectricStrawberry (27th Infantry Regiment....cut in half during the Clinton years...)
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To: sinanju
Partially correct. However we are looking at a backwoods lawyer who was splitting with the power group in his state and was able to attract a following that escalated to a national group that was able to beat the entrenched power structure at a national level. Remember the Whigs (and Democrats) had been around for a hundred years and had powerful men at all levels of government. And yet they could not keep the party together.

The important fact here is that Lincoln was a LEADER. If there exists such a person now in the 20 million Rush listeners, then it is very possible to have a major party within two years, especially with the bs that the Zero is doing. The need for a leader is key to the process.

17 posted on 03/03/2009 5:35:09 AM PST by ProudFossil
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

All this discussion of 3rd party misses the point. We do not have time for another election to stop this assault.

Either sufficient pressure must be forced on the Congressmen and Senators or the nation will be destroyed. And possibly subjected to a corrupt Global Government.

If we can recover control of our country, from the fraud machine, it will take a generation to rebuild from this.


18 posted on 03/03/2009 5:36:03 AM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: GeorgiaDawg32
If anybody could launch a new conservative party, it'd be Rush. But beyond his radio megaphone, he'd have to throw some of that 480 million bucks of his behind it. And as soon as he started trying, I'm betting the GOP would get behind the fairness doctrine right quick.

It's a tempting dream. The problem is that a party is just an organization. It's just an association. It's only as good as its people, and the flaws of the GOP would find their way to the new party.

19 posted on 03/03/2009 5:37:20 AM PST by Huck (Palin is perfect just where she is....in Alaska.)
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To: Texas Fossil

I think you right about time. I think the American voter has created a mess that we can’t pull out.


20 posted on 03/03/2009 5:37:55 AM PST by bmwcyle (Obama voters, your 401 K's are dead. Now what?)
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