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THE FUTURE OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IN ILLINOIS
Dec 10 2008 | Robert Klein Engler

Posted on 12/10/2008 5:41:32 AM PST by chicagolady

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We need a "Sarah Palin" in Illinois!!
1 posted on 12/10/2008 5:41:32 AM PST by chicagolady
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2 posted on 12/10/2008 5:47:20 AM PST by Sybeck1 (Million Minuteman March (Spring 2009))
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If the GOP were smart, they would roll into Illinois and tell the state republicans that things are going to be different: clean up the corruption, straighten out the message, figure out which local politicians are worth supporting, and really make Illinois a test case for new Republican thinking.

Ain't gonna happen.

3 posted on 12/10/2008 5:53:56 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: TheRightGuy; Condor51; BillyBoy; Dengar01; PhilCollins; SERKIT; ChicagoConservative27; ...

Illinois Ping


4 posted on 12/10/2008 5:56:57 AM PST by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty Let the American Taxpayer foot the bill !)
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“Yeah, it would be nice, but the Republican Party in Illinois is so screwed up I am ashamed to even talk about it. They are just as corrupt as Blago!”

Hey, I was born in Chicago, and raised in the suburbs where I now still live (DuPage County, still mostly a bastion of conservatism). The whole Pub Party is NOT corrupt. The problem w/the Pub Party in IL is that it is split in half between the RINO’s and the Conservatives. Of late, when a conservative Pub runs in the primaries, the RINO’s make sure to get another alleged conservative Pub to run also, thus watering down the conservative vote and the RINO wins the primaries. As long as our Party in IL remains continually split between the Rockefeller Pub types and the social Conservatives, we will not win again.

Gov. Jim Edgar was the only Pub Gov who managed to bridge the two parts of the Party, and governed our State very well. It was because he was fiscally very responsible. Now our coffers are bankrupt, and the majority Dem rule is ruining our State. But the Pubs are so busy fighting each other now that the future looks bleak unless we can somehow come up with a consensus candidate that appeals to both wings of our Party. That ain’t easy.


5 posted on 12/10/2008 5:59:07 AM PST by flaglady47 (Four years of captivity, no relief in sight)
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Yup. Should have started doing that yesterday.


6 posted on 12/10/2008 5:59:59 AM PST by maclay (We've been Baracked)
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“If the GOP were smart,”

If pigs could fly, we’d all carry umbrellas. But they don’t, and the GOP is the stoopid party.


7 posted on 12/10/2008 6:00:47 AM PST by Daveinyork
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To: chicagolady

Thanks for the ping - bookmarked for later reading.


8 posted on 12/10/2008 6:02:00 AM PST by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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(DuPage County, still mostly a bastion of conservatism).

I also live in DuPage County which USED to be conservative but went mostly for Barry this time around. There is corruption in major purchases, and mishandling of funds (9-1-1, water, etc) that the current state's attorney (R) is apparently not aggressively pursuing.

9 posted on 12/10/2008 6:05:38 AM PST by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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We need a "Sarah Palin" in Illinois!!

AMEN !!

Did you do townhall at the Lincoln last night or was it snowed out?

10 posted on 12/10/2008 6:05:38 AM PST by TheRightGuy (ERROR CODE 018974523: Random Tagline Compiler Failure)
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"This "Combine" relationship has been so incestuous at times that the Republican Party was seen not in competition with the Democrats, but as a complement to them. This complementary relationship becomes clear.... "


11 posted on 12/10/2008 6:06:07 AM PST by Leisler ("Give us the child for 8 years and it will be a Democrat forever. " Lenin)
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“I also live in DuPage County which USED to be conservative but went mostly for Barry this time around.”

No it didn’t. Where the heck did you hear that from?


12 posted on 12/10/2008 6:07:24 AM PST by flaglady47 (Four years of captivity, no relief in sight)
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Republicans can win elections again in Illinois if they do at least five things: Remain true to core conservative principles, especially the issue of lower taxes, openly confront the issue of illegal immigration and its impact on Illinois, attract new members to the party, especially the Reagan Democrats and reform minded Democrats, regain lost territory on the county level in order to isolate the Chicago Democrats, and run candidates in every election for every office. It's worth a try. Republicans have nothing to lose except elections.

Long but good read. This last paragraph says it all. Here in Ogle County we're pretty Republican but it's getting tighter. Lot's of immigrants (need I say illegals?) are tipping the balance more and more. Still, our state representatives as well as our Congressional House rep. remain Republican.

A personal aside: I've wondered in the past whether I'm a distant relation to lt. governor Pat Quinn. He's from Oak Park. I was born and raised until 11 years old in Oak Park and had relatives named Quinn (my mother's relative married into the family) living in Oak Park. But the Quinn family move to around Rockton about the same time, or before, that we moved to SE Wisconsin (1955). My genealogy work does not show a Patrick Quinn in that family line, but the Oak Park coincidence is intriguing. Who knows? I don't.

Anyway, if there is to be a special election for Obama's seat, the Illinois Republican Party should first work to insure the candidates are viable alternatives to Chicago/Cook County machine politics. Not just the one the Republicans may put forward, but the Democrat candidate as well. Then, the party needs to begin rebuilding itself instead of wallowing in defeatism as it has these past few years. THIS is the opportunity to begin that transformation. If we don't take advantage of it now then the party is indeed doomed.

13 posted on 12/10/2008 6:13:57 AM PST by bcsco (Illinois politicians should be read their Miranda rights when sworn in to office...)
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I went and guess what?

SOS...Different day!!


14 posted on 12/10/2008 6:27:06 AM PST by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty Let the American Taxpayer foot the bill !)
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>> “I also live in DuPage County which USED to be conservative but went mostly for Barry this time around.” No it didn’t. Where the heck did you hear that from? <<

DuPage county went to Obama by about 54%. If you don't believe this, feel free to go to USElectionAtlas.org or CNN Election 2008 page, click on "Illinois" and select election results by county.

15 posted on 12/10/2008 6:27:06 AM PST by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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Well, now that I think about it, social conservatives never liked McCain and probably stayed home or didn’t vote for him in particular. Illinois was a lost cause anyway as it is Obamaland, so conservatives in DuPage Country probably didn’t even bother. I almost didn’t, as I never liked McCain. Too many people moving into DuPage from Chicago probably also. However, our County Board remains predominantly Pub, which makes me think lots of conservatives didn’t pull the lever for McCain while voting for other conservatives.


16 posted on 12/10/2008 6:38:31 AM PST by flaglady47 (Four years of captivity, no relief in sight)
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I heard that DuPage voted O as well as Kane County this year. I couldn’t believe it. A friend of mine told me this, she either got it from the papaers, but more than likely the state election page.


17 posted on 12/10/2008 6:43:31 AM PST by Marmolade
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I live in Northfield, and I think that McCain is too liberal. If I thought that the election would have been close, in Illinois, I would have voted for McCain, since I didn’t want to help split the anti-Obama vote, helping him win Illinois’ 21 electoral votes, with about 49% of the popular vote. In Oct., I predicted that Obama would win 57%-58%, in IL, so I voted for Chuck Baldwin, of the Constitution Party.


18 posted on 12/10/2008 6:55:15 AM PST by PhilCollins
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I've read this article three times and something seems to be missing in regards to the IL GOPs problems -- Bob Kjellander.

We all know 'KJ' right? No?
IIRC he was the guy who worked with Blago on that bond deal that just happened to line KJ's own pockets with MILLIONS in *finders fees* (heeeeeeeellooo Combine).

Or this 'KJ', who is Karl Rove's Best friend, and who both decided that those 'extremist' conservatives were ruining the IL GOP and must be purged. Especially that dam Senator Peter Fitzgerald. That sob was just too conservative and too independent and wouldn't play footsie with the White House dammit!

If that 'KJ' doesn't ring a bell, then there's THIS KJ -- the KJ that just happened to be appointed as Treasurer of the 2008 RNC Convention. No I'm not kidding KJ was Treasurer. Well he does have experience handling Big Money so that must have been it. Being Karl Rove's Best Friend had nooooothing to do with it.

So until KJ is gone, in prison (he IS mentioned in the Rezko indictments for that *finders fee*) or otherwise, the IL GOP will NOT change. The Combine will rule, the IL GOP will be filled with corrupt RINOs, and we'll be wandering in the desert for forty years.

(just my 2¢)

19 posted on 12/10/2008 7:12:07 AM PST by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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We need to throw out McKenna and rebuild this damn thing. As for the Senate seat our best chance of winning is Mark Kirk, before you scream RINO, I've talked to the guy he is military man and is our best chance of winning hands down. I would rather have him ANYDAY than Jesse Jackson Jr. or one of the other crooks on Blago's list.

And as another FReeper emailed me earlier, no more Oberweis, Keyes, Cox and the rest of the tools who couldn't win a city dog catcher's race.

20 posted on 12/10/2008 8:00:48 AM PST by Dengar01
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