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Judge orders company to stop making popular Bratz dolls
chron.com ^
| Dec. 4, 2008
| GILLIAN FLACCUS
Posted on 12/04/2008 5:52:15 AM PST by IronKros
LOS ANGELES The rowdy Bratz dolls have been evicted. Barbie has regained control of the dollhouse. Toy giant Mattel Inc., after a four-year legal dispute with MGA Entertainment Inc., touted its win in the case Wednesday after a federal judge banned MGA from making and selling its pouty-lipped and hugely popular Bratz dolls.
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TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: bratz; children; copyrightlaw; dolls; intellectualproperty; judicialtyranny; mattel; propertyrights
Hopefully now I will no longer have to tell my 4 year old that those dolls are for big girls.
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posted on
12/04/2008 5:52:16 AM PST
by
IronKros
To: IronKros
I’m missing something here. The government has ordered a private enterprise to stop making and selling something? What right does the government have to regulate that?
There must be more to this case than what has been reported here.
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posted on
12/04/2008 5:54:30 AM PST
by
Jemian
To: IronKros
My wife refuses to let my daughters anywhere near the Bratz dolls.
I guess Barbies are just slutty enough ;)
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posted on
12/04/2008 5:54:32 AM PST
by
SJSAMPLE
To: Jemian
The designer of the Bratz dolls used to work for Mattel.
Mattel sued in court and it was ruled that the Bratz design was created on Mattel time.
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posted on
12/04/2008 5:55:24 AM PST
by
SJSAMPLE
To: SJSAMPLE
To: SJSAMPLE
Yep, Barbie is a tramp from the suburbs, (with a good attorney) Bratz are innercity crack-ho dolls.
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posted on
12/04/2008 5:57:13 AM PST
by
Travis T. OJustice
(Change is not a destination, just as hope is not a strategy.)
To: SJSAMPLE
Thank you. That wasn’t clear in the article. Now it makes sense.
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posted on
12/04/2008 5:57:19 AM PST
by
Jemian
To: IronKros
My wife and I call them SLUTZ.
Not sure why any parent would buy those for their girls.
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posted on
12/04/2008 5:57:38 AM PST
by
PGR88
To: Eric in the Ozarks
HO.
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posted on
12/04/2008 5:58:14 AM PST
by
Travis T. OJustice
(Change is not a destination, just as hope is not a strategy.)
To: IronKros
While I disagree COMPLETELY with a judge ordering a private company to stop making a product (Barbie doesn’t own the fashion doll. Bratz looks nothing like Barbie) I am glad I don’t have to call them the “Slutz” dolls anymore.
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posted on
12/04/2008 5:59:10 AM PST
by
autumnraine
(Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
To: PGR88
HA! That’s what we call them too. With the Z on the end and everything.
Barbie did try to compete with their “Ho Dolls” as I called them. But they were the trashy line of Barbies
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posted on
12/04/2008 6:00:14 AM PST
by
autumnraine
(Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
To: All
Oh yeah, and time to buy all things Bratz as they soon will be a collectors item?
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posted on
12/04/2008 6:00:51 AM PST
by
autumnraine
(Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
To: IronKros
You’re nicer than I am. I tell my daughter she can never play with those dolls, and she shouldn’t be friends with anyone who does.
To: autumnraine
Yeah! I am going to wonder down to my local Kmart and pick up a few.
My daughter will not allow me to buy them for my granddaughter she is 4 going on 5.
I think the baby bratz are the worse of all.
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posted on
12/04/2008 6:02:18 AM PST
by
waxer1
( Live Free or Die; Give Me Liberty or Give Me Death)
To: SJSAMPLE
And Barbie was ripped off in proportions and look from a German doll.
I guess this is one of those “no compete” clauses. Even if the employee had been working on designs at home while employed by Mattel the case could turn out like this.
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posted on
12/04/2008 6:04:47 AM PST
by
weegee
(Sec. of State Clinton. What kind of change is it to keep the Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton Oligarchy?)
To: IronKros
The Ebay sales are going to skyrocket. And I don't think many of those are going to end up in the hands of little girls, but instead in the hands of people who want to turn a profit.
To: Travis T. OJustice
She has to be a mouthbreather... I can’t see a nose.
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posted on
12/04/2008 6:07:20 AM PST
by
SolidWood
(Sarah Palin - Everything that is Sweetness and Light! WE STAND WITH HER!)
To: Travis T. OJustice
“It’s hard to be a pimp...”
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posted on
12/04/2008 6:07:28 AM PST
by
weegee
(Sec. of State Clinton. What kind of change is it to keep the Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton Oligarchy?)
To: Jemian
Im missing something here. The government has ordered a private enterprise to stop making and selling something? What right does the government have to regulate that?
From the article:
The ruling, issued in federal court in Riverside, followed a jury's finding that Bratz designer Carter Bryant developed the concept for the dolls while working for Mattel.
The same jury later awarded Mattel $10 million for copyright infringement and $90 million for breach of contract after a lengthy trial stemming from Mattel's 2004 lawsuit ended in August.
I would assume that there must've been a clause in the designer's contract that stated anything created while employed by Mattel is the intellectual property of Mattel.
This is a pretty common clause in the design business, whether it's fashion, software, or even dolls...
The article is poorly written and doesn't volunteer that information. And the Judge's decision is waaaaay overbearing for these types of cases. Usually, some sizable restitution money changes hands in these types of suits, and they go on making their product. But to force a manufacturer to stop making something is uncommon. Again, probably something missing from the poorly written article.
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posted on
12/04/2008 6:07:51 AM PST
by
bamahead
(Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
To: Melpomene
Whatever happened to Raggedy Ann???
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posted on
12/04/2008 6:07:55 AM PST
by
FES0844
(FES0844)
To: waxer1

There are Bratz... and there are Baby Bratz. Who exactly are they marketing them to?
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posted on
12/04/2008 6:10:15 AM PST
by
SolidWood
(Sarah Palin - Everything that is Sweetness and Light! WE STAND WITH HER!)
To: SolidWood
Make that’s because her face was based on a a fish.
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posted on
12/04/2008 6:11:26 AM PST
by
weegee
(Sec. of State Clinton. What kind of change is it to keep the Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton Oligarchy?)
To: weegee
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posted on
12/04/2008 6:12:22 AM PST
by
Travis T. OJustice
(Change is not a destination, just as hope is not a strategy.)
To: SolidWood
There are Bratz... and there are Baby Bratz. Who exactly are they marketing them to? To put it nicely, "Single, stay-at-home moms who are not financially secure."
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posted on
12/04/2008 6:13:32 AM PST
by
Travis T. OJustice
(Change is not a destination, just as hope is not a strategy.)
To: bamahead
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posted on
12/04/2008 6:16:22 AM PST
by
Jemian
To: SolidWood
Shouldn’t they come with tiny coke spoons on that chain?
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posted on
12/04/2008 6:17:44 AM PST
by
weegee
(Sec. of State Clinton. What kind of change is it to keep the Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton Oligarchy?)
To: autumnraine
You completely disagree that a court should be able order a company from violating the copyrights and patents of another company?
The dolls were created by a Mattel employee while he worked at Mattel. Therefore it was a work product that belonged to Mattel and MGA had no right to produce them.
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posted on
12/04/2008 6:19:28 AM PST
by
Comstock1
(If it's a miracle, Colour Sergeant, it's a short chamber Boxer Henry .45 caliber miracle.)
To: NavyCanDo
The Ebay sales are going to skyrocket. Only for a month or so, that should give most people time to come to their senses and realize that they aren't worth squat and putting food on the table during the "Obama Depression" will be more important. ... Then again there are a bunch of stupid people in the world.
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posted on
12/04/2008 6:21:14 AM PST
by
TexGuy
(If it has the slimmest of chances of being considered sarcasm ... IT IS!)
To: Jemian
As explained in the story, it’s called breach of contract.
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posted on
12/04/2008 6:28:48 AM PST
by
Cheburashka
(Democratic Underground: where PCP is not just for breakfast anymore.)
To: Eric in the Ozarks
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posted on
12/04/2008 6:29:38 AM PST
by
Red_Devil 232
(VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
To: IronKros

Workers in China at the Bratz factory react to the news.
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posted on
12/04/2008 6:30:27 AM PST
by
isthisnickcool
(GIVE ME YOUR MONEY BITCH! - President Obama)
To: Jemian
There must be more to this case than what has been reported here. If you only read the excerpt and not the article, there is definitely more to the case than what has been reported.
It is a copyright infringement case, and if you are making and selling something that is found to violate someone else's trademark or copyright you can bet your bottom dollar the government will step in and regulate that (and the federal government has a constitutional authority to do so -- it is one of the few constitutional authorities it has.)
To: Jemian
What right does the government have to regulate that? US Constitution, Article I, Section 8
Section. 8. The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; ...
To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;...
To: IronKros
NEVER sign intellectual property agreements.
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posted on
12/04/2008 6:40:12 AM PST
by
sig226
(1/21/12 . . . He's not my president . . . Impeach Obama . . . whatever)
To: VRWCmember
The article was poorly written. The problem was not very well explained.
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posted on
12/04/2008 6:42:07 AM PST
by
Jemian
To: autumnraine
The judge made the ruling after a jury found that the creator of Bratz had developed them while working for Mattel and then took the idea to MGA, which marketed the dolls.
To: Jemian
The article was poorly written. The problem was not very well explained. Perhaps. But from the article, this is the crux of the story:
The ruling, issued in federal court in Riverside, followed a jury's finding that Bratz designer Carter Bryant developed the concept for the dolls while working for Mattel. The same jury later awarded Mattel $10 million for copyright infringement and $90 million for breach of contract after a lengthy trial stemming from Mattel's 2004 lawsuit ended in August.
To: sig226
NEVER sign intellectual property agreements. That is a good idea if you never plan to work for a company involved in development and production of new technologies or consumer goods. If you go to work for any major manufacturer or product development company, an intellectual property agreement will be one of the documents you must sign if you want them to pay you for working there.
To: VRWCmember
If they want you, they will amend the agreement. If not, then you’re not an employee, you’re a slave. That explains the quality of a lot of television - slave labor at its finest. What really puzzles me is how they got this under copyright law. It’s almost unenforceable. Trademark is much better protection. I’m wondering how Mattel managed to have this as a copyright case. Perhaps they made a little goof in their agreements. Considering the money at stake, I’d expect an appeal, and I’d expect Mattel to lose the appeal rather broadly.
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posted on
12/04/2008 7:17:22 AM PST
by
sig226
(1/21/12 . . . He's not my president . . . Impeach Obama . . . whatever)
To: Comstock1
The contract is overreaching. I’ve seen corporations that required a release from the hiring contract to even allow an employee to work on any computer software at home/off hours (say a children’s game where your day job is testing hardware designs).
The corporations know that their contracts aren’t always binding, but they will leave it up to your legal team to challenge each one of them.
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posted on
12/04/2008 7:32:43 AM PST
by
weegee
(Sec. of State Clinton. What kind of change is it to keep the Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton Oligarchy?)
To: Comstock1
The toy could just as easily have been a carrot that you dress up or bunnies that have no wardrobes.
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posted on
12/04/2008 7:33:41 AM PST
by
weegee
(Sec. of State Clinton. What kind of change is it to keep the Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton Oligarchy?)
To: isthisnickcool
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posted on
12/04/2008 7:34:13 AM PST
by
weegee
(Sec. of State Clinton. What kind of change is it to keep the Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton Oligarchy?)
To: isthisnickcool
CHEW FASTER, YOU ARE FALLING BEHIND ON YOUR QUOTA!
To: weegee
Hmmm, or a product that is a direct competitor to your bread and butter.
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posted on
12/04/2008 7:57:40 AM PST
by
Comstock1
(If it's a miracle, Colour Sergeant, it's a short chamber Boxer Henry .45 caliber miracle.)
To: Travis T. OJustice
The Bratz doll pictured above has apparently snorted so much cocaine her nose has fallen off, poor girl.
To: I Buried My Guns
Some people have to go the cosmetic route:
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posted on
12/04/2008 8:35:29 AM PST
by
weegee
(Sec. of State Clinton. What kind of change is it to keep the Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton Oligarchy?)
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