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The Controversy Surrounding Obama's Birth
www.opednews.com ^ | November 29, 2008 | adeeba folami

Posted on 11/29/2008 6:56:50 PM PST by FreeAtlanta

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To: bushwon
I have heard talk show hosts say that this story cannot be real—surely he had to have been vetted by DNC

Would you want to be the DNC official demanding that Obama produce documents that he did not want to produce? What position would that procure for you in the Obama Administration? Let someone else handle it.

Would you want to be the journalist explaining to a liberal editor that you wanted to do a story that might deprive the world of its Obamessiah? Your MSM colleagues would regard that as blasphemy, lèse majesté, or both. Let someone else handle it.

Would you want to be the FBI or CIA official calling for the investigation of a black presidential candidate, with the certainty that your racist investigation would leak to the New York Times? Talk about a career ending idea! Let someone else handle it.

So now it is up to the courts.

81 posted on 11/29/2008 10:48:55 PM PST by TChad
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To: danamco
t is NOT a certificate, it is a CERTIFICATION, two very different things!!!

The document does say certification and not certificate, but I have seen the words used interchangeably. A birth certificate can be called a certification of birth.

Do you have a link to a site that explains the difference between the two?

82 posted on 11/29/2008 11:03:09 PM PST by TChad
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To: FreeAtlanta

Just show the damn birth certificate and get it over with for Pete’s sake.


83 posted on 11/30/2008 3:39:57 AM PST by CriticalJ
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To: FreeAtlanta

“Bring about change that can we believe in????” (LOL)! His cabinet posts are OLD Clintonistas! And one guy named to an advisory position is 81 years old.

http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244


84 posted on 11/30/2008 5:23:24 AM PST by real_patriotic_american
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To: cripplecreek

As well as Secretaries of States.


85 posted on 11/30/2008 5:58:31 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: mojo114

>>>If not, what would prevent a terrorist in sheep clothing to become President of our country.

Since he is financially tied to Nadhmi Auchi, I believe this is exactly where we are at.


86 posted on 11/30/2008 6:01:07 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: wintertime

>>>There has never been a need for “vetting” a presidential candidate.

>>>Previous candidates in the Democratic and Republican parties were ***clearly** natural born citizens

http://s3.amazonaws.com/apache.3cdn.net/3e5b3bfa1c1718d07f_6rm6bhyc4.pdf
Page 18 of the national party rules states, in part:

K. 1. Based on the right of the Democratic Party to freely assemble and to determine the criteria for its candidates, it is determined that all candidates for the Democratic nomination for President or Vice President shall:

a. be registered to vote, and shall have been registered to vote in the last election for the office of President and Vice President; and

b. have demonstrated a commitment to the goals and objectives of the Democratic Party as determined by the National Chair and will participate in the Convention in good faith.

2. It is further determined that these requirements are in addition to the requirements set forth by the United States Constitution and any law of the United States.


87 posted on 11/30/2008 6:37:10 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: TChad

This thread actually explains all of Hawaii’s different certificate/certification processes:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2139603/posts
Obama’s “birth certificate” - the Devil’s in the details


88 posted on 11/30/2008 6:41:37 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: frog in a pot

They - the “Democrat” Party - should have vetted Obama. They probably did, and he fitted perfectly with their anti-America pro-Socialist/Communist agenda.


89 posted on 11/30/2008 7:05:56 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (Join the Constitution Party)
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To: wow_really??

The fight the smears document is a forgery. Otherwise, why doesn’t Obama’s lawyers just present it in the over a dozen court cases that are going on?


90 posted on 11/30/2008 7:10:16 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (Join the Constitution Party)
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To: FreeAtlanta; TChad

“They - the “Democrat” Party - should have vetted Obama. They probably did, and he fitted perfectly with their anti-America pro-Socialist/Communist agenda.”

You are right, they probably vetted him, but that was long ago starting when he was in his highchair. More telling, is that “they” hand-picked him and groomed him. And, they gave his campaign substantial support and financial aid, undoubtedly with the intent that he always be indebted to them.

If you have not yet, please take a look at http://www.newzeal.blogspot.com/.

O has drawn David Axelrod close to him. Axelrod has a career background with communism, commencing with his mother, Myril and later the likes of Don Rose and David Canter, both with solid communist credentials.
Bomb-thrower Bill Ayers has long been O’s mentor. Ayers came out decades ago, has fought the long war and is not about to see it slip away:
“Our enemy is U.S. imperialism, the enemy of all humankind,” Bill Ayers, Educational Secretary, SDS, 1969.
Frank Davis, an outed communist, a very close family friend over the years and perhaps more, was from Chicago.

It is disgusting that our MSM and our Republican politicians did not focus on this during the campaign.

We are in a non-violent civil war as Marxism and Capitalism struggle for the government of our nation. All “they” need is enough civil unrest to argue it would be impossible to conduct free and open elections.

Stand up America! The presidential election is not over!
We voted for electors, not the individual candidates. The electors vote on or after December 15, 2009. The results are then presented to a joint session of Congress and OBJECTIONS may be heard on January 8, 2009 pursuant to the 20th amendment and Public Law 110-430.

Let’s not gamble that the lawsuits now pending will produce meaningful results prior to Jan 20, ’09, let’s take action now!
See the letter on my About page hand-delivered to the local offices of my Republican Senators and Representatives. I urge you to take similar action, even if it is simply faxing a one page letter to Washington, D.C.


91 posted on 11/30/2008 9:02:24 AM PST by frog in a pot
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To: FreeAtlanta

How To [produce a] Fake Obama Birth Certificate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0cjS_Cl_LM


92 posted on 11/30/2008 9:03:36 AM PST by FBD (My carbon footprint is bigger then yours)
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To: Theodore R.
My money is on "(b) there is something in it that contradicts the life story he has sold."

I was born the same year. Birth certificates from Texas that year showed whether or not your parents were married and your religion. It is likely that Hawaii birth certificates did as well.

I'm betting that his shows that his parents were not married and that his birth religion was Muslim. It may even list his father as "unknown" or someone other than Barrack Obama Sr.

93 posted on 11/30/2008 6:41:24 PM PST by Bubba_Leroy (DNC = Do Nothing Congress)
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To: Calpernia

Great thread. Thanks for the link.


94 posted on 12/05/2008 12:23:08 AM PST by TChad
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Truth is stranger than fiction. I have a hard time believing it myself?!


95 posted on 12/05/2008 12:24:42 AM PST by montesquiue
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To: imahawk

Oh yesss. Amnesty for illegal aliens clearly showed that George W Bush was reprenting the Mexican Government and aliens at the expense of American citizens. He and his father have a world view much like Barack Obama’s. The entire upper echelon of the Republican Party joined him in the betrayal of the the people who twice voted him into office.

I will be glad to see him go. I also hope that John McCain drpos off the radar for a while. I can’t stand the sight of the little creep.


96 posted on 12/07/2008 8:56:03 PM PST by SkipW
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To: SkipW

Remember when bush said”I now have a congress I can work with”?He stopped being my president that day and he has been working to destroy the republicans from within.I guess we pissed him off with the defeat on amnesty.I got no use for the man.


97 posted on 12/07/2008 9:02:47 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: Yaelle

Well, whatever the case, Obama’s election put one of my get rich quik enterprises out of business. Here I was going around selling absolution to guilt ridden white folks. My ads indicated that I was a descendent of slaves. (I have no idea whether I am, but it seemed like a useful bio). I even had a certificate for those who bought the premium program. Now Obama is in, and goofy whites driven by guilt over slavery and Jim Crow injustices feel absolved. I know that stuff happened a long time ago, but white liberals wallow in guilt. I had a nice thing going. But life is just not fair.

Now I am working up a program for idiots who voted for this guy. When they see what he is doing to America they will require therapy. This is a time sensitive endeavor though. When Obama gets finished there isn’t going to be a lot of money around. Unless of course you are an ACORN comunity organizer or a member of Jeremiah’s congregation.


98 posted on 12/07/2008 9:26:29 PM PST by SkipW
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