Posted on 07/16/2008 12:52:54 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
I can't help but notice that the NYS Police, the Sheriff's, and the local town and city cops no longer walk the beat or do much "protecting"
They are trained now to make their primary priority issuing minor tickets that have big fines.
Offense: Cell phone use = $150 bucks They also are trained to scan your auto inspection sticker, one day out of inspection and you may pay $200.
Speed traps, you name it, Police are now a profit center first and foremost, more reason for people who want to prtect themselves to purchase the guns of their choice.
i learned that treating people (even criminals) with respect makes the job a lot easier. unless the respect isn't returned.
one saying that describes the ticket-hungry cops to a tee:
"if you give a guy a hammer, everything starts to look like a nail."
Problem: Why does the speed limit seem to keep decreasing? Or better yet, why the speed limit increase greatly in some areas, then immediately decrease in others, then up again, then down again, up, down...etc. During any one trip, one is guaranteed to be speeding.
So, tell me again? How does one not speed?
JoMa89
Sorry guy but lots of conservatives question the whole premise of the road safety system.
I was just thinking on the way home how much of a miracle it was that I never got arrested in the city years ago. A typical Friday night in high school pretty much consisted of us going to the city, getting gross on 40's of malt liquor, jaywalking, buying pot in Washington Square Park, jaywalking more, and then hitting up a show at The Wetlands. Pre-Giuliani New York was an absolute blast.
Perhaps Jersey Highlander would like to tell the tale of a certain high school classmate of ours. He tells it much better than me.
We get tickets from kids that our son beat up in high school. Meanwhile, son moved to another state. lol
So you, other (older) cops, and a lot of people here all recognize that a lot of cops are attracted to the job and the assignment for the wrong reasons, but yet you defend them?
And ‘just following orders’ is not a good excuse. See Nurenberg for details.
I didn’t see thefactor defending them. Care to share the reason for the big chip on your shoulder?
I do notice that, even locally, the departments differ. Some are professional for the most part and too busy to spend time on “revenue enhancement”. Others tend to the hardnose and some, usually smaller departments, exist for the revenue to support themselves. Political leadership seems to drive that to a large degree.
Still, cops were a better breed in general when I was a kid and younger man.
FReegards
Records show you're due for your annual exam too... heh heh heh.
We need laws redirecting this income away from localities. That should cut down on needless traffic enforcement and put cops back to work busting real criminals.
follow the signs. they are clearly marked. and the up and down; those are called speed traps.
giants. i see from your site that this will make me a bad guy.
Cops are the fastest and most dangerous drivers on the road. They routinely violate every traffic law (speeding, rolling through stop signs, etc) that they issue tickets for. That's from decades of being a driver and observing them.
He said that the job of the police is NOT to protect or serve. They can't really protect you, and they really don't offer any service.
The job of the police is to enforce the law. "Protect and serve" is simply a motto for PR purposes.
He said that the job of the police is NOT to protect or serve. They can't really protect you, and they really don't offer any service.
The job of the police is to enforce the law. "Protect and serve" is simply a motto for PR purposes.
Well, nobody's perfect (except me). You're alright in my book. And every interaction I've ever had with the NYPD has always been pleasant and courteous for what it's worth.
Perhaps ‘defend’ was too strong a word. Let’s say excuse the behavior as ‘part of the job’ and ‘following orders’.
No chip. I call them as I see them. When the cops are over the line, I will criticize them. When they do right, I will defend them. I no longer automatically take their side.
The recent ruling in the case of the Chicago cop is a perfect example. The cop is taped while beating a 60 y/o man handcuffed to a wheelchair. The court ruled that he could not be fired. In my opinion, the 4 cops who stood by and did nothing should be fired. The ‘tough guy’ should go to jail.
“There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What’s there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced nor objectively interpreted and you create a nation of law-breakers.”
Quote by: Ayn Rand
(1905-1982) Author
Source: “Atlas Shrugged”, Part II, Chapter 3
I wish there were more officers like you. On a slightly different note, have you ever watched the show “Speeders?”
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