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Palin's energy relief: $1,200 each
Anchorage Daily News ^ | June 21st, 2008 | SEAN COCKERHAM

Posted on 06/21/2008 10:01:12 AM PDT by BlueMoose

Way to go Gov Sarah. She has got yo be the hottest. "Gov. Sarah Palin is asking the Legislature to give every Alaskan $1,200 as energy cost relief."

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TOPICS: AMERICA - The Right Way!!
KEYWORDS: ak2008; alaska; energy; govwatch; palin
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Where is Jay when you need him ?
1 posted on 06/21/2008 10:01:12 AM PDT by BlueMoose
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To: BlueMoose

Socialism.


2 posted on 06/21/2008 10:03:26 AM PDT by RightWhale (I will veto each and every beer)
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To: RightWhale

Not really... It’s more like a tax rebate.


3 posted on 06/21/2008 10:10:04 AM PDT by Accygirl (My Savior already came to the Earth.. His name was Jesus, not Obama)
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To: Accygirl
Is it going to everyone? Or only those deemed “needy” by government? The answer will tell us if it is socialism.
4 posted on 06/21/2008 10:15:25 AM PDT by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: RightWhale

Giving people their own money back is socialism?!!


5 posted on 06/21/2008 10:16:02 AM PDT by DeLaine (Anything that offends 3 people must be banned. The 200 million just have to suck it up.)
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To: BlueMoose

Why not just cut taxes to eat the surplus? They are giving money to people who did nothing to earn it. The people who generate wealth and jobs with their resources are the ones who will have the broadest positive economic impact. Tax cuts would be a sustaining gift to the state. This is just pandering, and is essentially something I would expect of Hugo Chavez.


6 posted on 06/21/2008 10:17:57 AM PDT by M203M4 (True Universal Suffrage: Pets of dead illegal-immigrant felons voting Democrat (twice))
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To: RightWhale
Socialism.

Normally, I would immediately agree with you. In fact, it was the first word that popped into my head.

But Alaska might be a special case. I could be mistaken, but I believe that there is no income tax and there is no sales tax in Alaska. In fact, I think everyone in Alaska gets a check from the state and that this money comes from Oil rights or something. In this circumstance and in this setting, is it really socialist to distribute state surplus in this manner? It would seem strange to distribute surplus proportional to income in this setting.

I guess, unless I'm mistaken about the setting, I wouldn't think such a plan is actually unfair.

7 posted on 06/21/2008 10:18:28 AM PDT by undeniable logic
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To: BlueMoose

Okay...Rick Perry, where is an energy relief rebate for Texans? I’d like to see how much money the state of Texas has made off $135/bbl. oil, and I’d like an explanation of why Texas is still charging the state gasoline tax at the pump when many Texans are barely able to drive to work.

And I would like to know how much money the Permanent University Fund has in it, and why middle-class Texas families have to pay tuition hikes every year for their children attending the University of Texas system and Texas A&M system when those two schools get all the money from the PUF. It’s very strange that Texas Tech, which is excluded from the PUF, is not raising tuition this year because they know how strapped Texas parents are, yet these two piggish subsidized systems are raising their rates yet again.


8 posted on 06/21/2008 10:18:30 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: M203M4

Did you actually read the story?

“The money for the payments would come from the windfall surplus the state is getting because of the high oil prices and last year’s oil tax increase. The state could collect an extra $2.7 billion in oil taxes and royalties than had been forecast for the coming fiscal year — even if prices gradually decline over the next year, according to the revenue department.

The payments replace a proposal Palin had earlier pitched to give $100-a-month energy debit cards to Alaskans for a year. The governor said that turned out too expensive to administer and the debit cards wouldn’t work in 174 rural villages.

The governor is also proposing to suspend the state gasoline tax (eight cents a gallon) and marine fuel tax (five cents a gallon) for one year. Palin had previously called for $475 million in state grants to utilities so they would lower their rates for residential and business customers. The utility grants weren’t part of the bill Palin produced Friday for the Legislature. The governor’s office said the grants are still on the table but details have to be worked out.

Palin hopes to meet with legislative leaders next week to work out details of how and when lawmakers would consider her plan. They’re in special session now to consider her natural gas pipeline proposal. She said she wants the Legislature to deal with the energy-relief plan in the next month or so.”


9 posted on 06/21/2008 10:24:57 AM PDT by aft_lizard (One animal actually its eats its own brains to conserve energy, we call them liberals.)
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To: undeniable logic

Well, if there are already no personal income taxes or sales taxes...what about corporate taxes? If there are no state taxes left to cut (praise be!), then perhaps I jumped the gun. Given only the options of (1) the government spending the money via the usual expansion of programs, or (2) the government dispersing it directly to all individuals, the latter is superior IMO. Government has a tendency to refuse to get smaller, even when revenues dry up.


10 posted on 06/21/2008 10:26:08 AM PDT by M203M4 (True Universal Suffrage: Pets of dead illegal-immigrant felons voting Democrat (twice))
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To: kittymyrib

Hell Kitty, Perry wants private donations to rebuild the Mansion. Personally, I think he should pay it himself out of the Foreign toll road contract kick-back monies.


11 posted on 06/21/2008 10:26:59 AM PDT by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: Accygirl

There is no tax. This is socialism.


12 posted on 06/21/2008 10:30:57 AM PDT by RightWhale (I will veto each and every beer)
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To: DeLaine

It’s not their money coming back. It’s money they never had and never would if the State didn’t just hand it out.


13 posted on 06/21/2008 10:32:10 AM PDT by RightWhale (I will veto each and every beer)
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To: undeniable logic

It’s not a question of fair. Nor has it anything to do with proportionality. These are not relevant factors. The State owns the oil, to keep murmuring at a low level the State distributes some of the royalty that otherwise goes into the Permanent Fund. The Permanent Fund is to operate the State when oil revenue eventually fails which makes for an attractive nuisance in the meantime. The distribution is called the Dividend, was invented by a Socialist Governor, and is demanded by the residents of the State because they like it.


14 posted on 06/21/2008 10:38:41 AM PDT by RightWhale (I will veto each and every beer)
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To: BlueMoose
The of charge socialism is warranted.. I would say.. BUT...

As Sarah said.. The huge amount the State recieve of very high crude prices.. YES the State gets Beau Coup money from miners and oil producers.. WELL THAT money (SHE SAYS) is BETTER spent by the Alaskans than by the State government.. WHo could fault that?.. She says its a very conservative decision.. She's right you know.. She says this money will help with the added burden of higher energy prices ALL must pay..

You know that government WASTE can eat up ANY overage of revenues to ANY government.. i.e. teachers unions, road building gangs for roads to nowhere.. and a hundred other questionable expenditures.. etc..

GO SARAH.. she caught the socialists while they were napping..
Shes smart too. John McLaims(Veep) would have her KILLED her career..
Besides that SHEs HOT.. and conservative..

15 posted on 06/21/2008 10:39:33 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: M203M4
Why not just cut taxes to eat the surplus?

No State taxes.

16 posted on 06/21/2008 10:39:42 AM PDT by RightWhale (I will veto each and every beer)
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To: BlueMoose

It’s gotta be way more fun being the governor of Alaska right now than it is being the governor of Michigan...


17 posted on 06/21/2008 10:47:56 AM PDT by hunter112 (The 'straight talk express' gets the straight finger express from me.)
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To: hunter112

Being Gov of Alaska is something anybody can do. I have known and know several persons who have done this or ran for the office. They are Alaskans with the Alaskan attitude just like all your neighbors, and that is all you need.


18 posted on 06/21/2008 10:54:08 AM PDT by RightWhale (I will veto each and every beer)
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To: RightWhale
[ The distribution is called the Dividend, was invented by a Socialist Governor, and is demanded by the residents of the State because they like it. ]

Right and SHE didn't start or really CAN'T STOP it either..
BUT this little gambit pulls the rug from under State socialists.. NOW if she only could find a way for the PF to finance the gas pipeline so the State owns it or part of it.. and leases it to providers.. THEN she would doing something..

SOCIALISM?.. true it is, but then all of America is a socialist country.. Don't look like that will change soon either.. Americas colleges are and have been breeding socialists for more than a generation.. little wonder..

What to do about it?.. I say Capitialize the Socialism.. OR Socialize the Capitalism.. you know like China and India are doing.. Capitalism creates wealth and socialism uses that wealth UP.. As long as possible throw the pendalum toward Capitalism, I SAY..

OR REVOLT.. I lean toward revolt.. but American men have been de-balled.. more or less.. so realistically CAPITALIZE the socialism when ever possible.. Sarah has her head screwed on straight.. Alaskan democrats and RINOs are cross threaded.. Our Senators and Rep.(Alaska) are the socialists.. currently.. and they ARE republicans..

19 posted on 06/21/2008 10:55:31 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: RightWhale
We must remember that the natural resources of the State of Alaska belong to the people in common. No this might be socialism. I'm a share holder just like every other person that lives here.

The state manages my share.

BTW they charge me a 75% managment fee.

20 posted on 06/21/2008 11:01:33 AM PDT by BlueMoose
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