Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Explorers find 1780 British warship in Lake Ontario
Associated Press ^ | Jun 13, 2008 | William Kates

Posted on 06/13/2008 4:20:50 PM PDT by decimon

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-39 next last

1 posted on 06/13/2008 4:20:51 PM PDT by decimon
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: blam; SunkenCiv

Who else? ping


2 posted on 06/13/2008 4:21:38 PM PDT by decimon
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: decimon
I guess there's a website for everything. Shipwreck World.
3 posted on 06/13/2008 4:27:30 PM PDT by decimon
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: decimon
He added that they hope to make a documentary about the discovery.

Wonderful. I'm looking forward to it.

4 posted on 06/13/2008 4:31:26 PM PDT by Jagdgewehr (If ignorance was oil, we could forget ANWR and drill on Capitol Hill.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: decimon

“They said the ship is still considered the property of the British Admiralty.

The Ontario went down on Oct. 31, 1780, with a garrison of 60 British soldiers, a crew of about 40, mostly Canadians, and possibly about 30 American war prisoners.”

*****

See? Even the Brits had prison ships..(damn you libs)

and if there are 30 American prisoners of war, then it’s time to bury them properly. Sorry Brits, it’s in American waters.


5 posted on 06/13/2008 4:33:07 PM PDT by max americana
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: decimon
Explorers find 1780 British warship in Lake Ontario

Those sneaky bastards!

6 posted on 06/13/2008 4:34:33 PM PDT by keat (What I wouldn't give for a nice pair of Moccasocks.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: keat
Those sneaky bastards!

The explorers or the Brits?

7 posted on 06/13/2008 4:37:37 PM PDT by decimon
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: decimon
Found this, just for a little background perspective...

Fort Ontario
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Fort Ontario is an historic fort situated by the City of Oswego, in Oswego County, New York in the United States of America.

Fort Ontario was one of several forts erected by the British to protect the area around the east end of Lake Ontario. The original Fort Ontario was erected in 1755, during the French and Indian War. At that time its name was the "Fort of the Six Nations," but the fort was destroyed by French forces and was rebuilt in 1759.

During the American Revolution, a detachment from the 3rd New York Regiment destroyed the fort in July, 1778, after the British abandoned it. The British returned and rebuilt the fort in 1782. There was an aborted attack on the fort by Marinus Willet in 1783. The British held the fort until 1796 after the signing of Jay's Treaty.

2nd Brigade of the U.S. 1st Infantry Division called Fort Ontario home until the brigade was inactivated on June 1, 1940.

During World War II Fort Ontario was home to approximately 982 Jewish refugees, from August 1944 to February 1946. Fort Ontario was the first and only attempt by the United States to shelter Jewish refugees during the war. After the end of the war the refugees were kept in internment due to disagreements concerning whether or not to allow them to become United States citizens. In January of 1946, the decision was made to allow them to become citizens, and by February all of the Jewish refugees were allowed to leave Fort Ontario.

The restored fort is open to the public as a state historic site. It was listed on the National Register of Historic Places in 1970.[1]

Fort Ontario was built with two other forts in the period, Fort George and Fort Oswego.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Ontario

8 posted on 06/13/2008 4:42:10 PM PDT by ETL
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: keat
Danger lurks in modern times on the Great Lakes.

IRAQI SUBMARINE PROWLING LAKE MICHIGAN

9 posted on 06/13/2008 4:45:01 PM PDT by Rebelbase
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: decimon

There was no such thing as a “crowsnest” on a warship of 1780. The picture shows the foretop, a platform located where the foremast and foretopmast were connected. The platform was required to provide something solid to connect the forechains and the foretackles. These bits show quite clearly in the picture and were used to fasten the foreshrouds that helped stablize the foretopmast.

The foretop was also a place where marines or sailors could position themselves to fire down upon an enemy ship.

I think that this ship should be raised. When Mary Rose sank, she carried with her many hundreds of soldiers and sailors and did so whilst in action, making her a war grave, no doubt. The British figured a way to raise her while still honoring her dead. HMS Ontario deserves a similar fate.


10 posted on 06/13/2008 4:47:26 PM PDT by centurion316 (Democrats - Supporting Al Qaida Worldwide)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: decimon

Bad zebra mussels


11 posted on 06/13/2008 4:53:16 PM PDT by Cold Heart
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: centurion316
The picture shows the foretop, a platform located where the foremast and foretopmast were connected. The platform was required to provide something solid to connect the forechains and the foretackles. These bits show quite clearly in the picture and were used to fasten the foreshrouds that helped stablize the foretopmast.

I hope no tar lost his foreskin on any of that.

12 posted on 06/13/2008 4:56:28 PM PDT by decimon
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: decimon

I agree. Raise the ship, show respect to the remains of the brave men who perished with her. Let us history nuts enjoy the vessel and her artifacts.


13 posted on 06/13/2008 5:02:33 PM PDT by joe.fralick
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: decimon
More info and pics here.

The location has also been narrowed.

I used to llive on this Lake in Greece, NY.

VERY NASTY NORTHEAST STORMS

14 posted on 06/13/2008 5:03:21 PM PDT by shadowcat
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: shadowcat
SORRY, HERE IS THE WEBSITE

http://www.democratandchronicle.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080613/NEWS01/80613043/-1/NEWSFRONT

15 posted on 06/13/2008 5:04:29 PM PDT by shadowcat
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: Pharmboy

Rev War ping request


16 posted on 06/13/2008 5:13:49 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (I tried to explain that I meant it as a compliment, but that only appears to have made things worse.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: shadowcat
I used to llive on this Lake in Greece, NY.

Couldn't afford Pittsford? ;-)

Never lived in the Roch. area but I did work for that company on State Street.

17 posted on 06/13/2008 5:15:14 PM PDT by decimon
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: decimon

I think that most of that activity was practiced down in the cable tiers.


18 posted on 06/13/2008 5:15:35 PM PDT by centurion316 (Democrats - Supporting Al Qaida Worldwide)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: decimon

EK Company, They have demolished most of the “park” by implosion. The City is dead. I left in 97.

Pittsford only had the Canal in certain areas.

Ever go to Rocky’s for lunch?
Oak and Jay St?


19 posted on 06/13/2008 5:20:10 PM PDT by shadowcat
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: centurion316
I think that most of that activity was practiced down in the cable tiers.

According to Churchill there was also rum and the lash.

20 posted on 06/13/2008 5:21:23 PM PDT by decimon
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-39 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson