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To: neb52

(Please excuse my reply to QBFimi, I became confused as to my correspondents.)

I think you have a naive theory about how gas stations operate. They are not independent dealers who set their own price. They are mere vendors, as far as I understand it, and their price is dictated to them as arbitrarly as it is perceived by you and me, if I’m not mistaken. I’m sure from my own perception that all the stations in the area, representing all the companies, jumped their price on the same day by very much the same amount.

And you know, if it dropped by $0.05 one day, whose to say it could not have dropped by another $0.05 or $0.10 a day or two after that? Or stayed the same for a few days more?

At any rate, the jump of $0.21 at one shot was unprecendented over the last few months, even though the trend was steadily upward. How about two months from now? What then?


20 posted on 05/23/2008 10:30:38 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: dr_lew

Most gas stations here are discount retailers. The Shells and Exxons are a minority and are considered a premium. Their prices rarely have huge swings, but also tend to be the highest consistently. QT, Racetrack, Costco, Walmart, Tom Thumb and Valero are the main retailers in the DFW area. They keep maybe a 2 day supply that has to be constantly replenished, thus the price changes every day if not twice a day. This is also due to the fact they pay upfront which is why they raise(or lower) the price prior to the gas being shipped. With the exception of Valero, QT, Racetrack and others are purely retailers. Valero is the largest refinery operator in Texas as well as the largest owner of oil pipe infrastructure in Texas. So as far as their gas goes they control it from the refinery to the pump. They also sell it to other retailers like QT and Racetrack.

So what happens if the price is cheaper one day and many more people buy gas that day to take advantage? It shortens the supply availability and causing either a shortage or a need for an “hot shot” delivery. That causes prices to go up.

Also this is fact. QT sets their morning price at a certain time and then updates it at a certain time in the afternoon. The Costco on Matlock in South Arlington, sends an employee up a few blocks to the QT to check the price in the morning then comes back to put theirs at a penny less. Then they check it again in the afternoon to make sure they are still a penny less.

Yes the Texaco/Chevron, Shell and Exxon/Mobil stations have to set the price from their regional headquarters even if they are a franchise. That is due to the company controlling the purchasing and deliver of the gas not the station. They could run out of gas and wait for days because they are not going to get anymore gas until the scheduled delivery comes in. A QT general manager has to constantly watch his inventory to make sure his Just In Time inventory method is in smooth operation. Otherwise they could be out of gas and have to pay a higher price from the distributer/refinery to get a delivery sooner than scheduled.


24 posted on 05/23/2008 11:57:38 PM PDT by neb52
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