Posted on 05/04/2008 8:43:25 AM PDT by texas booster
In the near future, we will be releasing some new projects which require a very rapid turn-around time. These are peptide fragment simulations which we are interested in simulating for a time-sensitive collaborative project involving protein structure prediction.
These WUs will go directly to the classic clients running with -advmethods. Non-classic clients (eg SMP, GPU, PS3) will not be affected, as all of these calculations will be run via the AMBER core and only the classic client supports the AMBER core.
To reward users for participating in this exciting project, we will be giving a x1.5 bonus in the points awarded. What's the catch? These projects will be less rigorously beta tested, so there will be an increased risk of Early_Unit_End errors. We believe the risk of this is minor (there will likely be a higher rate of early unit ends, especially very early in the WU, but we do not expect client machines to become significantly less stable). However, if you do not wish to participate in this project, just remove the -advmethods setting from your client.
This will not last forever and will likely go back to normal -advmethods usage in a few months. With that said, we do plan other uses for -adv in the future.
Note: the text was updated to clarify that this is classic clients only.
First, the F@H team has released new work units that allow those of us running the Windows GUI or console versions of F@H to step up and grab points galore.
The new work units will only be available to those who use the "-adv" flag on their F@H console. I understand that it is also available to GUI participants but I have not been able to verify it.
I waited a bit to ensure that it does make a difference. My daily points have increased from about 3,500 ppd to about 6,000 ppd, due almost entirely to these new work units. I run about 50 systems with the console version, and one system with a GPU.
I will still get blown away by EasySt, but at least it will take him another week to catch me!
Check out the stats here and you will see the increase in points that our team has enjoyed:
http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_summary.php?s=&t=36120
Secondly, as a team we are nearing several milestones. The FR Folding@hHome team 36120 will hit 50,000,000 points on Wednesday or Thursday! WOW!
There are several FReeping Folders who were here at the beginning when soccer_maniac started pumping the team I started in 2002. With his efforts, in two weeks we jumped from about 4,000th to 2,000th in the worldwide ranking of teams. Then malsua joined and set a new standard for points in a day. He was king until Klutz_dohanger convined the superintendent at his school district to let him install F@H onto the computer labs in his district and set new standards for points and systems.
FWIW, the whining and crying over at DU increased to a crescendo when they realized that they would never catch the FReeper Folding team. Ah, those were good days!
Now, we average about 200 FReepers every day that fold on about 900 systems. Due to the addition of graphic cards, multicore systems and PS3 consoles, it may seem that the points contributions of older Windows systems are being forgotten. The changes Dr. Pande highlighted above show that there is a need for every system that we can get into the program.
Please help congratulate the new FReepers that have helped us push past 50 million on our way to 100 million points!
If you have noticed someone who has hit a milestone, such as 100,000 points or 1,000,000 points please post their names here.
Most of all, if you have upgraded to a new system and didn't reinstall F@H please follow the thread and let us help you get folding again.
Remember, the research you support to cure Alzheimer's Disease and Parkinson's Disease may one day save YOUR life, or a beloved family member.
What? I think I missed something.
If your systems have dropped off then please restart them.
If you haven't folded before then please ping us for help!
If your systems have dropped off then please restart them.
If you haven't folded before then please ping us for help!
How does it work?: You download a safe, tested program (see link below) that is certified by Stanford University. It gets work from Stanford, runs calculations using your spare computer power, and sends the results back to the University.
Is it safe? Yes! Folding@Home rarely effects computer performance in any way and won't compromise your privacy in any way. It only uses the computing power you aren't using so it doesn't slow down other programs.
How do I get started folding for Team FreeRepublic?:
1.) Download the folding program from Stanford University's folding download page (Folding@home Client Download). Type in your desired user-name.
2.) Type in 36120 for the team number. THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT - if you get the number wrong, you won't be folding for team FreeRepublic!
3.) The third question asks, "Launch automatically at machine startup, installing this as a service?" - We recommend you answer YES. Otherwise you will have to manually start the program after every reboot.
How can my computer help? Even if they were given exclusive access to all of the world's supercomputers, Stanford still wouldn't have as much processing power as they get from the supercluster of people's desktop systems Folding@home relies on. Modern supercomputers are essentially a cluster of hundreds of processors linked by fast networking. But Stanford needed the power of hundreds of thousands of processors, not just hundreds.
There's no reason to not get involved! It's free, easy, and you can know you're helping every minute without lifting a finger.
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I don’t know what is going on with my comp. lately. Every morning I wake up and it has restarted. I then have to reopen my WU’s...again.
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Tell us about your systems - speed, memory, etc.
Usually restarts are due to memory problems or power supply problems, occasionally due to BSoD.
I have my systems set to auto-restart when power goes out and I have F@H set to run in the background as a service. At least then you wouldn't need to restart it every morning, until we figure out the reasons for the problems.
And Macs! I have one each Mac, Windows and PS3 running F@H.
BTTT
I have a Dell XPS, Pentium (R) DCPU, 2.80 GHZ, 2.79 GHZ, 1.oo GB of RAM.
Does that help?
I have my systems set to auto-restart when power goes out and I have F@H set to run in the background as a service.
Mine always starts back where it shut down. ie: if my comp shut off at check point file # 23, it always starts back at # 23. That means my comp wasn't folding for hours until I restarted my PC.
Pfft. That should read - 1.00 GB of RAM.
I know that there is a lot of upside to the latest hardware, especially GPU cards and the PS3, but these systems can only run specialized work units.
That's why I have kept my systems as mostly 5.04 console units, since these can fold any general work unit and a broader range of science than the specialized units.
Are you running on OS/X or OS/9?
My PS3 dose so much more I don’t keep some of the older machines running. I keep my two newest machines up and the PS3 and the others only added about 5% production.
Go into BIOS and see if there is an advanced setting to allow the system to restart after a power interruption.
I'm a comp illiterate but that looks like I have plenty of stretching room.
It shuts down, not locks up. I'm thinking something is running in the back ground that I'm not aware of that requires an automatic system restart.
When it comes to points per watt of electricity the PS3 is hard to beat.
There is still a place for older systems since these do a broader range of science than the GPU and PS3s.
What's BIOS?
| Client statistics by OS |
| OS Type | Current TFLOPS* | Active CPUs | Total CPUs |
| Windows | 186 | 195345 | 2007144 |
| Mac OS X/PowerPC | 7 | 8534 | 115003 |
| Mac OS X/Intel | 24 | 7816 | 47136 |
| Linux | 51 | 29997 | 291258 |
| GPU | 131 | 1895 | 7533 |
| PLAYSTATION®3 | 1832 | 60673 | 507119 |
| Total | 2231 | 304260 | 2975193 |
| Total number of non-Anonymous donators = 979297 |
| Last updated at Sat, 03 May 2008 12:03:54 |
| DB date 2008-05-03 12:39:59 |
| Active CPUS are defined as those which have returned WUs within 50 days. Active GPUs are defined as those which have returned WUs within 10 days (due to the shorter deadlines on GPU WUs). Active PS3's are defined as those which have returned WUs within 15 days. |
| *TFLOPS is the actual teraflops from the software cores, not the peak values from CPU/GPU/PS3 specs. Please see our main FAQ or PS3 FAQ or GPU FAQ for more details on specific platforms. |
OS X of course. Running the SMP client on the iMac.
you mentioned running the GUI with -advmethods -- you can create a second shortcut in your F@H folder, then place that icon on your desktop and add the switches there: C:\FAH1\winFAH.exe -local -verbosity 9 -advmethods -- same thing for the Console version. That way you can add or subtract as needed. Make sure you have shut down the running session of F@H first, and if you have more than one running they point to individual cores and work folders.
If you have a new computer please reinstall Folding@home with your previous name so that you can start adding to all of your old points.
Some of the new computers that I have are very, very fast even with just a normal console version.
If you are folding for another team then have at it (unless you want to change back to Team 36120)!
And if you are a casualty of the political wars on our site, and lurking just to check it out, please continue folding, either for 36120 or for another conservative team.
Unless you want to become Ronald_Reagan for the Dummies team, just to tweak them!
Also, whoever is “3626Hawthorn” please ping in so we can help get you restarted.
The Dell BIOS is access by hitting the F2 key (?) when you first start out, and it will let you into a special section of the computer that keeps the setting when the computer is turned off.
Normally I would just say to get professional help. Maybe a local geek to look at it.
Its probably a Windows update or a driver issue that causing the problem.
Anyone else want to take a stab at this?
bump! proud to be folding!
LOLOL, I agree. :)
To reward users for participating in this exciting project, we will be giving a x1.5 bonus in the points awarded. What's the catch? These projects will be less rigorously beta tested, so there will be an increased risk of Early_Unit_End errors. We believe the risk of this is minor (there will likely be a higher rate of early unit ends, especially very early in the WU, but we do not expect client machines to become significantly less stable). However, if you do not wish to participate in this project, just remove the -advmethods setting from your client.
Is this the standard install for F@H or do you have to modify your setup to take advantage of it? If you do have to modify it, how? I run 2 pcs with Win2k
In the console version using “-adv” is NOT the default. You need to enter the “Changed Advanced Setting” during installation to get there.
Which version are you running?
If the GUI, I would change the icon that points to F@H and add BritYank’s code:
C:\FAH1\winFAH.exe -local -verbosity 9 -advmethods
(changing C:\F@H1 to the location of your folder).
By using his code and restarting the system you will be able to start using the -advmethods setting.
I turn it on for all but the systems with the lowest memory in them.
what am i doing wrong ?
using gui 5.03
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I get the same error message
Same error message here. Do I have to uninstall it, reinstall it and do the change advanced settings option like suggested in another post?
I don't have FAH in the location you indicated it might be.
I run a shortcut in my “Startup: folder.
It's a shortcut from:
“C:\Program Files\Folding@Home\winFAH.exe”
Oh well. We'll get it.
I tried your settings in the shortcut, I also tried running the program with the switches from the run menu and it still gives the “location not found” error
Okay. Dell running XP sp2, dual 3MHz processors, 2GB ram.
Will you suggest what I should download... there’s a lot of beta versions... or point me to a post?
I had an old version and the folder is still there in Program Files. There isn’t an uninstall. Will it update?
Thanks!
Go into your F@H directory and look at the F@H log. Go to the bottom of it and see if it still runs.
No go.
When you look at the program properties it gives you the path, all I did was add switches to it. Without the switches it works fine but as soon as I try to add the switches it gives the path not found error. Take the switches out again and it works fine.
OK, add me to the list of ‘dropped out of sight, but still folding’ freepers who is confused by the instructions.
I have F@H installed here: C:\Program Files\Folding@Home
I also have a link in my services file that points to here, so it automatically restarts whenever I restart my machine (rarely). I would assume I have the GUI installation, because when I right-click on the red cog-wheel in the lower right of my screen, I can look at the display.
I dont’ know nuthin’ ‘bout no switches, or adding what-not to the program to let it get the -adv or whatever new-fangled and important projects, but I’m definitely interested.
I’m pretty computer-savvy, but I am having trouble following this. Can anyone help a sister out?
I haven’t even glanced at my folding progress for probably a year.
Looks like my home machines haven’t suffered too much from the inattention. Hmmm, not so, I’m getting a “work unit has invalid address” and “no other work to do” messages on one machine.
I just reinstalled everything and am still getting the same message, any ideas? OK, looks like it was just Stanford’s server down a bit, all’s well now.
I do see they have not uninstalled FAH from my office computer and that is chugging along according to Egon’s monitor. I have been working out of the office for the past year or so.
I used to have restart problems in the heat of summer on one of my machines. Running FAH at 100% would cause spontaneous reboots due to high CPU temperature if it was warm in the house. Doesnt seem likely this would happen at night like yours, but it might be worth a check.
Do you have a utility to check the temperature of the CPU? I use MBM5 to monitor the problem machine and it can be set to keep a log.
http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=311
Throttling the CPU to 90% for a month or two in hot weather worked for me until I got a better cooling fan.
The best part of our team is all the green arrows indicating that someone has just passed a new milestone. Its an indicator of the health of the team.
Compare to say ... the DUmmies!
If I uninstall it then reinstall it will I lose all my stats?
My cpu usage for F@H has been running at 95% for over a year now. I'm beginning to think that it's some firefox add-on. My computer went haywire about a week ago and I started a thread on my problem. I removed the many add-ons and my computer stopped shutting down as I slept and the many many other problems I encountered.
For two mornings I woke up and my pc was still running. As I said, I may have to recheck my add-ons and see if one of them is giving me the problem.
I'm gonna scream if I start getting that nasty error message again.
You won’t lose any stats so long as you use the same user name (and don’t forget team 36120). You will probably lose the completed portion of the current job with a reinstall.
If you use a different user name the points will accumulate to that user name and aren’t transferable. But, you can change back at any time.
Well I should have the jobs I'm curently working on done by tomorrow, if I don't hear of an answer to why you can't add switches to a GUI setup I'll try the reinstall one one of my machines and see if it does any good.
Hey, T.B.
Thanks for the ping-a-ling.
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