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What if Huckabee's 'signature issue' is a scam?
vanity | December 11, 2007 | Plutarch

Posted on 12/10/2007 10:57:40 PM PST by Plutarch

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To: Plutarch

Wow. Good work. I’m impressed. The “before” and “after” photos are striking. Usually when people lose weight they look younger; Huckabee appears to have aged 20 years.


41 posted on 12/11/2007 6:00:00 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Plutarch
Who cares?

The more important issue is WHY Republican primary voters want a nominee with losing weight as a signature issue, AT A TIME OF WAR????

42 posted on 12/11/2007 6:03:06 AM PST by roses of sharon
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

He could simply instruct his doctor to release the xray that was taken at the time of his hernia.

No Stripping Necessary. (Thank God!)


43 posted on 12/11/2007 6:34:44 AM PST by lucyblue
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To: Plutarch

The Drudge headline this morning exclaims that the Dems are holding fire from Huckabee until after the nomination because he is such an easy target. We must vet our candidate NOW so that we have a chance in the general election. If Huckabee has been dishonest about his weight loss, his character is suspect and he has been living a lie. And we would have to presume if he lies about this signature issue then, he will lie about anything. Great job Plutarch!


44 posted on 12/11/2007 7:04:38 AM PST by Mrs. Plutarch
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To: Eric Blair 2084; flashbunny; NeoCaveman; SoConPubbie; Esther Ruth; pissant; pandoraou812; ...
PING - The Huckster Chronicles deepen

DEMS HOLD FIRE ON HUCKABEE; SEE 'EASY KILL' IN GENERAL ELECTION

45 posted on 12/11/2007 7:56:00 AM PST by OB1kNOb (Support Duncan Hunter for the 2008 GOP presidential nominee. He is THE true conservative candidate.)
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To: Mrs. Plutarch

His character already is suspect. He lies like a democrat.


46 posted on 12/11/2007 8:03:24 AM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
we must take the man at his word.

The trouble there is the man is a know lier. Just the other day he said he wasn't for amnesty, then within a matter of hours he was for amnesty, today who knows. Depend of what tyson tells him to say.

47 posted on 12/11/2007 8:50:47 AM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: MindBender26

I agree.


48 posted on 12/11/2007 9:12:37 AM PST by lonevoice (It's always "Apologize to a Muslim Hour"...somewhere)
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To: Plutarch

Not to defend the Huckster, but some years ago I was considered morbidly obese, went on Atkins (no diet drugs, no surgery, nothing but changing eating habits and then, as energy levels picked up, increasing exercise), and lost close to 100 pounds in about 4-5 months. After that, it slowed down considerably, taking another year to lose the next 50 pounds.

If you find the right diet for you and you are way, way overweight, a huge initial loss is not out of the question.


49 posted on 12/11/2007 9:16:43 AM PST by kevkrom ("Should government be doing this? And if so, then at what level of government?" - FDT)
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To: Plutarch

Good grief! Who the heck cares how he lost weight? If I were to consider voting for him, his weight, and how he lost it, would be the least of my concerns. As it turns out, I don’t like him because I don’t trust him on the issues, so he won’t get my vote in the primary. If he’s the last man standing as the nominee when the General election rolls around, then I’ll vote for him.


50 posted on 12/11/2007 9:45:39 AM PST by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ

This is why it matters, per Plutarch’s post:

RAMIFICATIONS OF A HUCKABEE DISCLOSURE:

If Huckabee the nominee is eventually forced to admit that he mischaracterized the details of his weight loss saga, the magnitude of the negative political impact is unknown. Perhaps it wouldn’t much matter, voters would accept and forget. Perhaps otherwise, it doesn’t take too much imagination to think of what hay political opponents could of it. It is just as easy to imagine a revelation would make the general election season a perpetual Christmas for Democrats.

Should they wish to attack Huckabee’s veracity, integrity, credibility, qualifications, issues, health status, suitability for office, or even person, Huckabee’s acknowledgement of deception provides the solid footing to drive home attacks into what would prove to be the Huckabee campaign’s soft underbelly. A thousand articles would begin “Huckabee, who admitted deceit regarding his gastric bypass surgery…” and would follow with further accusations that the campaign would have to defend from back on its heels.

It is easy to see the lines of attack that flow directly from an admission of gastric bypass surgery, and that a Huckabee GOP Nominee could scarcely defend:

1. Huckabee the former preacher even now has a perception of being an Elmer Gantry. Being the perpetrator of a diet scam will complete the template, which will be used endlessly.

2. Democrat attack ad: “Huckabee’s Arkansas health plan was to secretly have gastric bypass surgery, and then blame Arkansans still obese for high health care costs.”

3. The Democrats and media will find victims. Obese Arkansans will be interviewed, who felt humiliated for remaining fat after the Governor falsely claimed that his weight loss proved “anyone can”.

4. Huckabee will have been shown to falsify his Presidential resume with his spurious weight loss achievement. People who falsify resumes are fired, not elevated to the Nation’s highest office.

5. Bariatric surgery is associated with high rates of hospitalization, increased long term mortality, and anemia, osteoporosis, nutritional deficiencies, and neurological complications. The media will helpfully run features emphasizing these risks.

6. Huckabee will have falsified his medical history to voters. Thompson admitted he had Non-Hodgkins Lymphoma, Giuliani prostate cancer and McCain melanoma. Bariatric surgery is of similar medical impact, and Huckabee has no excuse to hide his status from voters.


51 posted on 12/11/2007 12:00:16 PM PST by Mrs. Plutarch
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To: Plutarch
Author a fraudulent “How I did it” diet book?

Or should it be called: "If I did it" diet book...

52 posted on 12/11/2007 12:27:42 PM PST by redrunner (We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give." --Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: Plutarch

53 posted on 12/11/2007 12:41:13 PM PST by redrunner (We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give." --Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: Darkwolf377
ROFL! You're being cruel.

Charts...graphs...and tons more bandwidth because the man lost weight and gained some health back.

Ridiculous.

54 posted on 12/11/2007 12:46:18 PM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: Mrs. Plutarch

Well, I wasn’t going to vote for him in the primary anyway, but if, by some outside chance, he makes it to the General, even HE is more acceptable to me than the Clinton Criminal enterprise.


55 posted on 12/11/2007 12:51:46 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: Plutarch
From my Huckabee post yesterday: " ...in 1998 to a "Baptist Convention" of Pastors, in the capacity of the former president of the Arkansas Baptist Convention... He wasn't speaking as the Governor of Arkansas or as the candidate for POTUS... It was correct and specific for that audience in 1998... He was motivating a group of Pastors to go and lead their congregations... Mitt Romney just told us this week that his religion is important and he would not change his belief... Mitt also said he wasn't running for head pastor... Mitt was roundly praised by everyone from Rush, Sean, and many in the MSM... Why would any of you be alarmed about a 1998 speech which reflects Huckabee's beliefs and faith... This is not germane to the issues of the Presidency in 2008... If you want to beat up Huckabee, beat him up on the issues... There are plenty to choose from... BUT NOT THIS.....

NOW THIS ONE WORKS...

56 posted on 12/11/2007 12:53:19 PM PST by redrunner (We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give." --Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: DCPatriot
Charts...graphs...and tons more bandwidth because the man lost weight and gained some health back.

Huckabee did more than simply get "get his health back" (though the pics don't look that healthy). Huckabee has denied having gastric bypass, and used his diet/exercise saga for PR, politics and policy. If turns out he did have gastric bypass, he would be caught in a big fat lie.

Do you think being branded a lier might be a problem for our nominee, once the Dems and MSM stop holding back and start laying in?

Per Drudge today:

"He'll easily be their McGovern, an easy kill," mocked one senior Democrat operative Tuesday morning from Washington.

"His letting out murderers because they shout 'Jesus', his wanting to put 300,000 AIDS patients and Magic Johnson into isolation, ain't even scratching the surface of what we've got on him."

This might well be one of the things they've got on him. Neither you nor I know how effectively it can be used against him. In either case Huckabee has a duty to the GOP to set the record straight before the primary voting begins. Don't you agree?

57 posted on 12/11/2007 1:39:20 PM PST by Plutarch
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To: Plutarch
Do you think being branded a lier might be a problem for our nominee, once the Dems and MSM stop holding back and start laying in?

A liar will not be believed, even when he speaks the truth. --Aesop

58 posted on 12/11/2007 2:23:06 PM PST by redrunner (A liar will not be believed, even when he speaks the truth. -- Aesop)
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To: Plutarch

Excellent reporting. This should be circulated wide and far, the MSM will not tell the public the medical facts if they feel it is in their interest to push a favored figure. Remember in 2004 the media was so in the tank for the Democrats that they would not disclose the obvious implication that John and Elizabeth Edwards had had their replacement son, and third daughter, through donor egg therapy. No, it was just a ‘miracle’ that helped them through their grief.

You don’t think pumping her 48-year old and then 51-year old body up with oceans of synthetic hormones might have had something to do with her developing breast cancer? And that that responsibly disclosing that might save untold numbers of women from developing that disease if they knew the risks?


59 posted on 12/11/2007 2:31:44 PM PST by Paladin2b
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To: nowandlater
If we was still using it a central issue for his presidential campaign then I would tend to agree. But he is not that is why I don’t think this merit such a huge focus

It has to do with character and being honest had he not written a book on the subject who would care!


60 posted on 12/11/2007 3:05:10 PM PST by restornu (Harry Reid's is going to get Daschled! Your on your own Harry!)
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