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Vick Given 23 Month Sentence (Breaking)
TV | 12/10/2007 | me

Posted on 12/10/2007 7:46:54 AM PST by thefactor

Vick given a 23 month sentence. Plus 3 years of probation. Breaking.


TOPICS: Local News; Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: dogfighting; michaelvick; nfl; sentencing; vick; virginia
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just broke.
1 posted on 12/10/2007 7:46:55 AM PST by thefactor
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To: thefactor

they are saying his playing career is pretty much over.


2 posted on 12/10/2007 7:48:10 AM PST by thefactor
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To: thefactor

Wow. IIRC that’s at or near the upper limit of the sentencing guidelines, so they hit him pretty hard.

}:-)4


3 posted on 12/10/2007 7:48:26 AM PST by Moose4 (Wasting away again in Michaelnifongville.)
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To: thefactor

“they are saying his playing career is pretty much over.”

It’s gone to the dogs.


4 posted on 12/10/2007 7:48:39 AM PST by Rb ver. 2.0 (Global warming is the new Marxism.)
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To: Moose4

I thought 5 years was the max?


5 posted on 12/10/2007 7:48:52 AM PST by krb (If you're not outraged, people probably like having you around.)
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To: thefactor
just broke

No, I believe he'll probably be broke for quite a while ...

6 posted on 12/10/2007 7:49:31 AM PST by tx_eggman ("Believing without loving turns the best of creeds into a weapon of oppression" Eugene Peterson)
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To: Moose4

He’ll probably be out in 6 months.


7 posted on 12/10/2007 7:50:18 AM PST by boomop1 (there you go again)
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To: thefactor

Hanging Henry comes through.


8 posted on 12/10/2007 7:50:24 AM PST by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: Moose4; krb
well, the prosecutor recommended 12-15 months i think. the judge went over the sentence recommendation which is pretty out of the norm.

vick has waived his right to appeal so this is set in stone i guess. proves judge believed vick was the mastermind.

9 posted on 12/10/2007 7:50:42 AM PST by thefactor
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To: thefactor

Good......


10 posted on 12/10/2007 7:51:34 AM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: mewzilla

the media made it a point that this judge owns and loves dogs. no one thought it was a good thing for vick obviously. justice for the dogs.


11 posted on 12/10/2007 7:52:15 AM PST by thefactor
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To: boomop1

The sentence first has to survive the appeals process. If it stands, I believe Federal sentencing rules require something like 80% of the sentence to be served before you can be released. Perhaps someone with specific knowledge will chime in.


12 posted on 12/10/2007 7:52:18 AM PST by jdub
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To: krb

I don’t know...I thought I heard 12-24 months, but that may have just been the “expected” sentence instead of the actual guidelines. Most of the so-called pundits have been saying around one year for quite a while, though.

I think he’s done, because after two years in prison, the NFL may slap him with an extra suspension. Maybe at some positions he could come back from a three-year layoff, but not at quarterback. Not that he was that great a “system” quarterback anyway—he did what he did based on his own God-given talent as a runner and scrambler, not so much as a steady passer.

}:-)4


13 posted on 12/10/2007 7:52:38 AM PST by Moose4 (Wasting away again in Michaelnifongville.)
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To: Squantos

Damn good!


14 posted on 12/10/2007 7:52:54 AM PST by Eaker (If illegal immigrants were so great for an economy; Mexico would be building a wall to keep them in)
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To: Moose4

Your tagline:

“Wasting away again in Michaelnifongville.”

Looking out for those police assaults...........


15 posted on 12/10/2007 7:53:15 AM PST by Rb ver. 2.0 (Global warming is the new Marxism.)
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To: thefactor
the media made it a point that this judge owns and loves dogs. no one thought it was a good thing for vick obviously. justice for the dogs.

For the dogs in particular and the public in general. Fitting sentence.

16 posted on 12/10/2007 7:53:36 AM PST by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: thefactor

12-18 months recommended by prosecution..the judge apparently disagreed. Good for him.


17 posted on 12/10/2007 7:53:57 AM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: thefactor
Guidelines MAX = 5 years....
Prosecutor recommended 12-18 months on the plea deal...

Sentence = 23 months to serve....
(Hangin' judge!)

That's gonna leave a mark...

Good news in the shadows:
The Falcons will have 23 months... (basically 2 full seasons...
No VICK!!
(I doubt they would take him back anyway...)

I am certain the phones are ringing in Suwannee...
Even as we type (badly...)

18 posted on 12/10/2007 7:54:35 AM PST by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: jdub
i think he waived the appeals process. that's at least what ESPN is saying. whatever sentence was imposed by the judge was the last word is what they are saying. i guess he wanted to seem like he was ready to accept responsibility and get a lighter sentence.

but like all criminals, he's just sorry he got caught.

19 posted on 12/10/2007 7:54:36 AM PST by thefactor
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To: thefactor

I despise Michael Vick, but DOUBLE the sentence recommended by the Prosecution is absolutely insane.

Michael Vick is a bad guy, but two years in prison for a PLEA BARGAINED DEAL is just too much.

The score of this Football game...

ANIMALS RIGHTS LEFTISTS: 7
LOGIC & REASON: 0


20 posted on 12/10/2007 7:54:37 AM PST by MarkDel
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To: thefactor

What I want to see are the pictures of him in the black and white striped prison uniform he wore to court today.


21 posted on 12/10/2007 7:55:24 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: thefactor

I wonder if he’ll come out of prison with a Muslim name???


22 posted on 12/10/2007 7:55:29 AM PST by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: boomop1; jdub
He’ll probably be out in 6 months.

Does he get any leniency for voluntarily starting his prison time back on Nov. 19? You would think that would win some brownie points with the judge, but who knows.

23 posted on 12/10/2007 7:55:58 AM PST by jdm
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

Yeah, it’s too bad that Moose doesn’t have what it takes in Durham to get out of legal trouble :-)


24 posted on 12/10/2007 7:56:08 AM PST by krb (If you're not outraged, people probably like having you around.)
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To: jdub
"The sentence first has to survive the appeals process."

When you arrive at a deal with the prosecution and plead guilty, I don't believe that you can appeal. In the unlikely event that a judge would allow the plea to be withdrawn, Vick would have to go to trial and roll the dice for a much longer sentence. My guess is that he will stay quiet and do his time.

25 posted on 12/10/2007 7:56:21 AM PST by JustaDumbBlonde
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To: thefactor

He’ll play the starting center position in prison.


26 posted on 12/10/2007 7:56:41 AM PST by Niteranger68 (Questions are free. Answers are $1. Correct answers are $5.)
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To: SE Mom

I wish for vick to be a non-person. Let him be ignored. Let him be poor. Let him be alone. Personally, I don’t agree with the Government to put him away and add to their costs, but they can fine him for every penny he has and give it to animal shelters.


27 posted on 12/10/2007 7:56:44 AM PST by Loud Mime (The Democrats made people believe that govt. lawyers are victims, whatta country!)
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To: jdub
There is no parole or early release in the Federal prison system. Vick will serve everyday of the 23 months.

red

28 posted on 12/10/2007 7:56:51 AM PST by rednek (if it isn't large caliber, it isn't worth carrying)
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To: krb

2 years? Big deal. He should get the max.


29 posted on 12/10/2007 7:56:58 AM PST by rintense (Thompson/Hunter 2008!)
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To: MarkDel
yeah, but the guys who rolled on him each got a year. and they weren't as involved as vick was is what i'm hearing.

sentence recommendations are usually followed, you're right. but in the end, it's all in the judges discretion.

30 posted on 12/10/2007 7:57:39 AM PST by thefactor
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To: thefactor
Vick given a 23 month sentence.

(With apologies to Dan Rowan):

Good night Vick!


31 posted on 12/10/2007 7:57:49 AM PST by ssaftler (Which Al is more deadly: Al Qaeda or Al Gore?)
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To: MarkDel
Michael Vick is a bad guy, but two years in prison for a PLEA BARGAINED DEAL is just too much.

He trusted the government and they screwed him. Moral of the story is what you get for trusting ANYTHING in dealing with the government.

32 posted on 12/10/2007 7:57:59 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government, Benito Guilinni a short man in search of a balcony)
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To: MarkDel

You think this sentence is too tough? Bull! All I have to say is good riddance to bad rubbish! If I were the judge, I’d have given him the full five years and I am a conservative!


33 posted on 12/10/2007 7:58:07 AM PST by mort56
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To: boomop1

Not sure. Is this in Federal custody??? If Fed, he served the full term, I believe.


34 posted on 12/10/2007 7:58:13 AM PST by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: MarkDel

THere should be a pool here on who thinks Vick will play again and for what team? My gut feeling is yes, he’ll play again (he’s still better than Rex Grossman even after 2 years in the pen)...He makes a statement that he’s had time to reflect on his life, blah, blah, blah, does the apology dance for some NFL team (which they’ll require as a signing point), and then play for someone like the Raiders!


35 posted on 12/10/2007 7:58:27 AM PST by princess leah
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To: SE Mom
12-18 months recommended by prosecution..the judge apparently disagreed. Good for him.

12- 18 months and the judge gave him 23 months. Damn he sure threw the book at him. LOL, he'll be at spring practice.

36 posted on 12/10/2007 7:58:34 AM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: thefactor
That's more than I thought he would get.

Maybe if we said that all illegal aliens abuse dogs...hmmm...

37 posted on 12/10/2007 7:58:53 AM PST by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they have to)
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To: MarkDel

I am no leftist but I believe the sentence is just because he was involved with and had animals tortured to death, not just killed for losing fights where money was bet. Quite obvious you think our furry creatures are not important and creations of God.


38 posted on 12/10/2007 7:59:07 AM PST by jrooney (Ron Paul makes Jimmy Carter look tough and Dennis Kucinich look sane.)
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To: Wings-n-Wind
The Falcons will have 23 months... (basically 2 full seasons... No VICK!!

Al Davis is filing Vick's number in his Rolodex...

39 posted on 12/10/2007 7:59:10 AM PST by ErnBatavia (...forward this to your 10 very best friends....)
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To: Loud Mime
I wish for vick to be a non-person. Let him be poor

Envy is an ugly thing.

40 posted on 12/10/2007 7:59:34 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government, Benito Guilinni a short man in search of a balcony)
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To: thefactor
'Scuse me...but shouldn't this have been posted in Barking News rather than Breaking???
41 posted on 12/10/2007 8:00:23 AM PST by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they have to)
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To: princess leah
i'd hate to be the PR guy on the team who gives vick a job after his time is up!

good luck with the endless protests.

42 posted on 12/10/2007 8:00:26 AM PST by thefactor
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To: thefactor

In prison Vick will learn a new meaning to the words, “doggy style”.


43 posted on 12/10/2007 8:00:27 AM PST by Hacklehead (Crush the liberals, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the hippies.)
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To: MarkDel
The score of this Football game...

ANIMALS RIGHTS LEFTISTS: 7
LOGIC & REASON: 0

Pro-lifers: -5

44 posted on 12/10/2007 8:00:34 AM PST by Lou L
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To: from occupied ga

Moral of the story is do not torture and kill animals for sport. This has nothing to do with the government but Vicks actions only.


45 posted on 12/10/2007 8:01:00 AM PST by jrooney (Ron Paul makes Jimmy Carter look tough and Dennis Kucinich look sane.)
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To: thefactor

Not Enough!!!!!!!


46 posted on 12/10/2007 8:01:26 AM PST by bmwcyle (BOMB, BOMB, BOMB,.......BOMB, BOMB IRAN)
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To: Pharmboy

ha, i was just pinging you!


47 posted on 12/10/2007 8:01:39 AM PST by thefactor
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To: princess leah

I wonder if Vick will become a jail house muslim?


48 posted on 12/10/2007 8:01:39 AM PST by Rb ver. 2.0 (Global warming is the new Marxism.)
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To: MarkDel
Michael Vick is a bad guy, but two years in prison for a PLEA BARGAINED DEAL is just too much.

I think that it is very hard to make such a judgement without knowing everything that the judge knows. You may have to re-assess this after the state trials. I'm sure that there will be some shocking revelations unless Vick plea bargains here as well. You might come to the conclusion that this sentence was pretty lenient.

49 posted on 12/10/2007 8:02:42 AM PST by CommerceComet
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To: theDentist
I wonder if he’ll come out of prison with a Muslim name???

Yes he will be converted to the Religion of Peace and renounce all violence towards dogs. Instead he will endorse violence and death to infidels!

50 posted on 12/10/2007 8:02:52 AM PST by mc5cents (Show me just what Mohammd brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman)
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