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1 posted on 09/20/2007 5:49:54 AM PDT by randita
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Donovan McNabb says black QBs' performances are judged by different standard from whites'.

What a steaming pile of B.S!

2 posted on 09/20/2007 5:58:34 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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Phil Sheridan's take (Philly Sportswriter) - Rush mentioned incessantly, of course:

Whole lot of talk about McNabb, little understanding

3 posted on 09/20/2007 5:59:48 AM PDT by randita
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Yea never has there been a White quarterback run out of town with criticism. Deal with your own failures Donovan and maybe you can grow up to be more than just a black quarterback. But somehow i think you will always see yourself as a victim, after all thats what your told.
4 posted on 09/20/2007 5:59:56 AM PDT by Archon of the East ("universal executive power of the law of nature")
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Oh yeah, I think that is noted in their QB rating. You can only see the color column with special glasses though. It is hidden between the TD and INT columns.


5 posted on 09/20/2007 6:01:19 AM PDT by WV Mountain Mama (Super Mom! Able to remove stains and shrink clothes in a single load.)
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Yeah, I’d say a different standard. For the better part of the last decade the most over-hyped player in the NFL was Michael Vick. Always on the verge of fulfilling his potential, the most talented QB ever.... blah blah blah. I’m just thankful we won’t have to listen to that continually this season.


7 posted on 09/20/2007 6:03:51 AM PDT by bereanway (Hunter in '08)
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It’s always the last swirl in the bowl when QB’s do this.


8 posted on 09/20/2007 6:04:36 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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I agree with McNabb.

Black teammates treat black quarterbacks very differently than white ones.


11 posted on 09/20/2007 6:09:09 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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As a lifelong Jints fan I’ve seen plenty of McNabb. When he arrived, he was expected to lead them to the promised land. While he has had some amazing performances (all too frequently against the Jints), he’s had some games where he really misfires (i.e. Super Bowl). I’d love to see the column/report or whatever that criticized him for missing this throw or that after a 300 yard game. All athletes are judged on individual stats and rings on the their fingers. After you’ve shown you can put up the stats, fans are looking for the titles and if you don’t deliver them, you’re criticised as not having met expectations. For some good examples, look at Fran Tarkenton, Jim Kelly, Dan Marino and, until very late in his career, John Elway.


13 posted on 09/20/2007 6:14:34 AM PDT by Renkluaf
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Rush was right that the leftist sports press propped up McNabb, and then went apolplectic when he called them out on it.

Which proved his point.


14 posted on 09/20/2007 6:14:55 AM PDT by Senator Goldwater
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I think you suck too!

25 posted on 09/20/2007 6:36:09 AM PDT by JZelle
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two words....Jeff Garcia
McNabb needs to run to Mama so she can wipe his tears.


28 posted on 09/20/2007 6:39:07 AM PDT by donnab
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Liberalism is a fantasy, pro-sports are a fantasy, the two meld like no tommorrow. Rush was right.


36 posted on 09/20/2007 6:55:20 AM PDT by junta (It's Jihad stupid! It's the borders stupid! It's Political Correctness stupid!)
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If there is a rap on black quarterbacks, it is that they are too eager to run "to make something happen" instead of staying in the pocket. In other words, a college-style QB.

No running college-style quarterback has ever won a Super Bowl. They are exciting to watch. They put fans in the seats because they can overcome and outrun a mediocre or bad team's shortcomings, they sell a lot of jerseys, but they do not put championship banners and flags in their home stadiums.

John Elway and Roger Staubach were through running to make something happen and became prototypical NFL-style QB's when they finally won their SB rings. They learned what Fran Tarkenton never did learn.

When McNabb got injured, it was either time for him to become an NFL-style quarterback that throws first and only runs for his life or show he that he is still just a college-style QB that can't cut it in the NFL.

Monday night he flunked his test. The black QB on the other side "passed" his test.

Judge McNabb differently? Sure. Look at his ring finger and compare it to Terry Bradshaw's, Joe Montana's, Tom Brady's, and Doug Williams' and you be the judge.

Donovan, here's a dose of reality for you, it's not the color of the finger, it's the jewelry that's on it.

Winning NFL quarterbacks are all one color - golden.

47 posted on 09/20/2007 7:10:05 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat; but they know what's best for us)
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I blame the entire fiasco on the excessively fervent Eagles fans and the voracious Philadelphia media (with sports talk station WIP at the head of that list!). These two factors have created an unnecessarily high expectation for the success of the Eagles, and poor Donovan McNabb has been saddled with these expectations and not handling it well.

McNabb deserves much better, and I think it would be in his interest to leave for another team next season to revive his career.

54 posted on 09/20/2007 7:42:10 AM PDT by RayChuang88
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To: randita; Allegra; carlr; Maximus of Texas; EX52D; StephenTX; wallcrawlr; blackie; null and void; ...
Re: I only speak on facts. It's only something I've been part of and other quarterbacks before me and after me have been part of.

By George, old pard... You are right. Us white quarterback really, really are treated differently!

You go, Donovan! Tell... It... Like... It... Is!!!

Now, be a good boy... and go get me another double Stoli on the rocks!

Now, if you doubt Dandy Don... just go Google 'Don Meredith' and see how he was treated differently!

BTW-- Way back in the "Luv Ya Blue!" Houston Oilers 1979 days, I happened to be asked by a friend if I'd like to work the Oiler-Steelers Monday Night Game that year. JR was a spot wrangler/gofer/whatever for the ABC broadcast team. I'd get to work the game doing something and get $35 pay for the night.

The pay wasn't important, but the anticipated fun of the whole thing was! Finally the night came and I found myself following JR around until one of his bosses barked a command in JR's ear. I was to be given a very important position: I was to be Cosell's Stoli man.

Just before the start of the game, Cosell gave me a $20 bill and said, "Double Stoli rocks." I went to the nearby bar set up behind the press box and got a double Stoli on the rocks in a styrofoam cup. I went back to the booth and handed it to Howard and when I held out the change, $16, he waved it off.

A few minutes before the end of the 1st quarter, Cosell pulled out another $20 and waved me over. He indicated with the near empty cup he wanted another. Off I went and as before, he took the new Stoli and again tipped me another $16. This happened again at the half and just before the 3rd quarter. When the game was finished, the Oilers won as I recall, 20-17 in a sea of Columbia Blue pom-poms singing "Houston Oilers Number One!" and Cosell got off his stool, not showing one sign of 8 shots of Stoli in about 3 hours, and walked over to his briefcase. He opened it, took out a tape recorder and a stop watch. Right then and there, without a stop, did a three minute commentary for his daily radio sports spot. It was classic Cosell and without a slip up at all.

He looked over at me, I was in amazement at his performance. He pulled out another $20 billl and pressed it into my hand. "Thank you, Mr. Lee. It was a pleasure working with you!" he said in that booming half-serious half-comical tone of his. He patted me on the back and walked out of the booth.

As far as I knew, he's never asked nor even knew my name!

For the night, Howard Cosell had tipped me $84 and ABC paid me $35. But my greatest reward was watching Howard Cosell in his natural environment!

Now, I'd always joined in on the joking about Howward Coosell and his arrogant blow-hard manner, but after that night, I was impressed in his professional work manner and skills at improvisational speaking. He could also hold his liquor with the best of them! It was never the same watching him afterward. The joking from then on was mainly offset by admiration.

And Howard Cosell held his own sitting right there between the classic pro Frank Gifford and the classic comic wit Dandy Don Meredith. The interaction between the three was something to see, but that is for another time, another thread...

57 posted on 09/20/2007 8:15:39 AM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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Hey McNabb, this is what puts you into "great quarterback" company...

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you ass....bwahahahahaha...

I hate the Eagles, I hate the Redskins.....but I really hate cry babies...bwahahahaha..

Shut up and keep choking in the playoffs, overthrowing wide open receivers and generally screwing up Philly. I don't want them to trade you... I want you to stay in Philly for the next 15 years if possible.

60 posted on 09/20/2007 10:46:34 AM PDT by Dick Vomer (liberals suck....... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.,)
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Redskins QB Jason Campbell disagrees
61 posted on 09/20/2007 10:47:47 AM PDT by JZelle
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I was born, raised, and live in the Philadelphia suburbs, so I'm a lifelong Philly sports fan.

Having said that...McNabb is way out of line. First of all, the Philadelphia Daily News is slightly left of Hillary Clinton, even infiltrating their sports page.

McNabb owns the most Eagles' QB records, has a $65 million contract (someone correct me on that if I'm wrong), a head coach who will never criticize him, Mommy & Daddy who coddle him, and a fan base that deserts him ONLY when he underachieves.

Li'l Donny Mac should research former Eagles' QB's such as Ron Jaworski, Roman Gabriel, Doug Pederson, Mike Boryla, Norm Snead, etc., etc. to see if the fans were rough on them. As a 56-year old Eagles fan, I could tell him the fans and media were rougher on THEM than they ever were on him. Ever.

Oh, BTW, the aforementioned QB's are white.

Oh, and McNabb is 0-2 so far this season, when most "experts" picked the Iggles to win the division.

But I guess that's not an excuse.

79 posted on 09/20/2007 1:32:52 PM PDT by Fintan (I'd be willing to bet 9 out of 10 people in this country have no idea we have a Constitution.)
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