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As bad as electing Jim Webb to the senate.
1 posted on 07/19/2007 11:49:53 AM PDT by .cnI redruM
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Scum like him should be hog tied and placed in the ring and let the dogs have at him.


2 posted on 07/19/2007 11:52:11 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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How long before they lawyer plays the Race Card?...........


4 posted on 07/19/2007 11:53:13 AM PDT by Red Badger (No wonder Mexico is so filthy. Everybody who does cleaning jobs is HERE!.......)
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Gives more credibility to the nickname “National Felons League”.


10 posted on 07/19/2007 11:59:44 AM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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And where are the PETA people when you need them?


12 posted on 07/19/2007 12:01:31 PM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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Yoni Goldstein: Michael Vick is one sick puppy
15 posted on 07/19/2007 12:02:50 PM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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Is there a Cesar Milan for NFL players? A football whisperer?


17 posted on 07/19/2007 12:03:21 PM PDT by KingSnorky
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Why is anyone shocked by any of this?

NFL has been nothing more than overpaid thugs for a long time.

Personally I’d be shocked if there aren’t more folks in the sport engaging in this and other similar activities.

Take the punk out of the ghetto, but can’t take the ghetto out of the punk.


18 posted on 07/19/2007 12:04:05 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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Falcons face 'incredibly difficult decision' with Vick
23 posted on 07/19/2007 12:06:00 PM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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I saw a segment on last night’s news about this despicable crime. I had to give my chocolate lab a big hug. I am disgusted beyond belief


26 posted on 07/19/2007 12:07:32 PM PDT by AlaskaErik (Run, Fred run! I will send my donation as soon as you announce.)
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Link on TheSmokingGun.com to the 18-page Federal indictment against "PURNELL A. PEACE a/k/a "P-Funk" and "Funk", QUANIS L. PHILLIPS a/k/a "Q", TONY TAYLOR a/k/a "T" AND MICHAEL VICK a/k/a "Ookie"
28 posted on 07/19/2007 12:10:30 PM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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Google Maplink to 1915 Moonlight Rd., Smithfield, VA
31 posted on 07/19/2007 12:13:39 PM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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I don’t own dogs, nor do I want one. Reading that article made me sick, however. Whether it was dogs or some other living creature, Vick & Co’s treatment of them is disgusting. I hope they get put away for a long time.


34 posted on 07/19/2007 12:16:01 PM PDT by GnL
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Federal investigators say the quartet began attending fights as early as 2002, and in that year, Vick is first said to have sponsored a fight, between Zebro and Maniac at the Moonlight Road property for a purse totaling $2,000.

One of the more detailed descriptions of a fight involves a bout in March 2003. A professional fighter, now cooperating with the government, traveled from North Carolina to a location near Blackstone, Va., with his 35-pound female pit bull and a 47-pound male pit bull. The purse was $13,000 a side for the fight involving the female and $10,000 for the fight between the males. According to the indictment, Peace and Vick "represented" Bad Newz Kennels at those fights, which Bad Newz Kennels lost. "Peace, after consulting with Vick about the losing female pit bull's condition, executed the dog by wetting the dog down with water and electrocuting the animal," the indictment reads.

This, the pitbull-fighting, etc., is all about trying to be a badass. The money involved in these purses is chump change to these people. But this kind of cruel, degenerate activity gives them street cred in the gangstah culture young blacks are so mesmerized with, more so than just being a professional quarterback, boxer or rapper.

Vick will plead if he can avoid jail time. There seems to be too much evidence of his personal involvement (multiple witnesses, physical evidence) to try to overcome in a trial.

If he manages to avoid jail time, will he be able to salvage his NFL career? I'm sure right now with the revelation of the details of this sordid activity most people would say no, but as time passes I'm not so sure, given the state of our culture, that his playing days are over.

37 posted on 07/19/2007 12:18:40 PM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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"On the Travel Act portion of the conspiracy charges, he faces a maximum of five years in prison and a $250,000 fine. The dogfighting charges carry a possible sentence of one year in prison, a $100,000 fine or both."

Vick is a heap of trash. Hope the maximum sentences are for each count, and not rolled all together to lighten the outcome. The Falcons should suspend him immediately. Let Vick take it to the players union, and the players union take it to the commissioner. The sooner he is suspended the sooner the checks stop coming in.
38 posted on 07/19/2007 12:19:06 PM PDT by backtothestreets (My bologna has a first name, it's J-O-R-G-E)
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"bad newz kennels" - Michael Vick's front for dog fighting?

It looks like there is no doubt as to what took place on Michael Vick's property.

Investigators said almost nothing to reporters who gathered at the property while agents conducted a second search on Friday, but documents filed in Richmond and obtained by The Associated Press detailed aspects of the case for the first time. Vick is not named in the documents.

The property was used as the "main staging area for housing and training the pit bulls involved" in a dogfighting operation, according to the court papers.

The documents contend prize money from the dogfighting climbed into the thousands of dollars,people came from as far away as Texas and sheepish pit bulls were killed.

As federal agents used a backhoe to dig in an area about 10 feet wide by 20 feet long behind the massive two-story home, then left at about 4:30 p.m., the documents shed some light on their investigation.

They allege that dogfights have been sponsored by "Bad Newz Kennels" at the property since at least 2002. For the events, participants and dogs traveled from South Carolina, North Carolina, Maryland, New York, Texas and other states.

Fifty-four pit bulls were recovered from the property during searches in April, along with a "rape stand," used to hold dogs in place for mating; an electric treadmill modified for dogs; and a bloodied piece of carpeting, the documents said.

The documents said the fights usually occurred late at night or in the early morning and would last several hours.

Before fights, the participating dogs of the same sex would be weighed and bathed, according to the filings. Opposing dogs would be washed to remove any poison or narcotic placed on the dog's coat that could affect the other dog's performance.

Sometimes, dogs weren't fed to "make it more hungry for the other dog."

Fights would end when one dog died or with the surrender of the losing dog, which was sometimes put to death by drowning, strangulation, hanging, gun shot, electrocution or some other method, according to the documents. The property has an aboveground swimming pool, and investigators were seen looking into its murky water Friday.

During a June search of the property, investigators uncovered the graves of seven pit bulls that were killed by members of "Bad Newz Kennels" following sessions to test whether the dogs would be good fighters, the documents alleged.Members of "Bad Newz Kennels" also sponsored and exhibited fights in other parts of Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Maryland, New Jersey and other states, according to the filings.

On Vick's Web site, he lists his birthplace as Newport News, "a.k.a. BadNews."

Friday, federal agents used shovels and heavy equipment to search the Vick property, where an informant told authorities as many as 30 dogs could be buried.

A backhoe-front loader was brought in and used to excavate a cleared area on the property. The material found to be of interest was transferred into numerous large, ice-filled coolers and loaded into a rental truck, which left the property.

An Associated Press reporter and photographer viewing the investigation from a helicopter could not clearly identify the evidence being collected.

Investigators were digging in an area about 50 yards behind a large white house. About 15 people could be seen on the property, which includes several kennels surrounded by pens made of metal fencing, other kennels and outbuildings.

Located in southeast Virginia, the expansive property has a metal gate at the entrance and a white plastic fence around the perimeter. The fence and a large two-story building painted black behind the home obscured the work of investigators.

More than 15 vehicles were on the property, including the rental truck and at least one Virginia State Police evidence collection truck.

Corinne Geller, a spokeswoman for the Virginia State Police, said state authorities were working with federal investigators in an "assistance capacity."

Vick has said he rarely visited the property. No charges have been filed.

During an April 25 raid at the property, about half the dogs were tethered to car axles with heavy chains that allowed them to get close to each other, but not to have contact, an arrangement typical for fighting dogs, according to an affidavit.

Later, Surry County officials secured a search warrant based on an informant's information about dogs being buried on the property, but never acted on it because prosecutor Gerald G. Poindexter said he had concerns with the wording of the document.

On June 7, the day that warrant expired, federal officials executed their own with the help of state police investigators.

Poindexter publicly questioned the federal government's interest in a dogfighting case. He suggested Vick's celebrity was the draw and raised race as a possible motivation. Poindexter and Vick are black, as is Surrey County Sheriff Harold Brown.

Poindexter, on vacation in Louisiana, said by telephone he was unaware of Friday's search and was still pursuing what he called a parallel investigation. He said he assumed Surrey County and federal officials eventually will share their evidence.

Vick initially said he had no idea the property might have been used in a criminal enterprise and blamed family members for taking advantage of his generosity. He also put the house up for sale and reportedly sold it quickly, although there is no record that the sale has closed. Vick has since declined to talk about the investigation.

39 posted on 07/19/2007 12:20:14 PM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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http://www.comedycentral.com/motherload/index.jhtml?ml_video=90142


40 posted on 07/19/2007 12:20:57 PM PDT by toldyou
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nice folks!

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43 posted on 07/19/2007 12:21:29 PM PDT by ken21 ( b 4 fred.)
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During an April raid of Vick's property in Virginia, authorities seized 66 dogs and equipment commonly used in dog fighting.

51 posted on 07/19/2007 12:28:51 PM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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This will work....

http://www.comedycentral.com/motherload/index.jhtml?ml_video=90143


52 posted on 07/19/2007 12:29:20 PM PDT by toldyou
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Dogs in the Kennel - musical tribute
60 posted on 07/19/2007 12:37:08 PM PDT by Homer1
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