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Mary Winkler gets 60 days in mental hospital..
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Posted on 06/08/2007 12:07:20 PM PDT by navysealdad

Mary Winkler guilty of voluntary manslaughter in the March 2006 killing of her minister husband, Matthew. Judge gives her only 60 days in mental hospital............................


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1 posted on 06/08/2007 12:07:21 PM PDT by navysealdad
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To: navysealdad

This is more wrong than OJ.


2 posted on 06/08/2007 12:08:24 PM PDT by ishabibble (ALL AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: navysealdad

She literally got away with murder.


3 posted on 06/08/2007 12:08:35 PM PDT by Joann37
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To: navysealdad

.....wow.....Paris Hilton’s original sentance was 45 days in jail......


4 posted on 06/08/2007 12:09:06 PM PDT by NorCalRepub
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To: navysealdad

With any luck maybe she’ll marry the judge.


5 posted on 06/08/2007 12:09:16 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici
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To: navysealdad

Well, isn’t that special.


6 posted on 06/08/2007 12:09:21 PM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: navysealdad

Must be the law in France.


7 posted on 06/08/2007 12:10:44 PM PDT by golas1964 (www.imwithfred.com)
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To: navysealdad
Oh.My.God.

Never again will I accuse a man of hyperbole when he says American courts devalue male lives.

This is as bad as the days when men could kill wives if they claimed they caught them cheating.

8 posted on 06/08/2007 12:11:01 PM PDT by Verloona Ti (Jesus says, Forgive your brother 70x7 times. Mo says, Kill your brother if he leaves islam.)
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To: navysealdad

from what I understand, it’s time in a mental hospital followed by 3 years in the hoosgow...


9 posted on 06/08/2007 12:11:01 PM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (Every Democrat Party cause eventually becomes a business then it degenerates into a racket.)
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To: navysealdad

Now I see Paris’ problem. She didn’t kill anyone.


10 posted on 06/08/2007 12:11:35 PM PDT by rvoitier (Democrat Party, not Democratic Party.)
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To: navysealdad

They think they can fix her in 60 days so her ugly never comes out again? A wee bit optimistic, I’d say...


11 posted on 06/08/2007 12:11:55 PM PDT by Hegemony Cricket (Don't mistake timid driving for defensive driving.)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

WRONG


12 posted on 06/08/2007 12:14:08 PM PDT by navysealdad
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To: navysealdad

America’s justice system’s answer to islamic justice system.


13 posted on 06/08/2007 12:14:39 PM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: navysealdad

Is this the one that shot her sleeping husband in the back because he was mentally abusive according to her? If so, 60 days in the loony bin is outragous.


14 posted on 06/08/2007 12:15:25 PM PDT by Dosa26
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To: Verloona Ti
...the days when men could kill wives if they claimed they caught them cheating.

Women could do the same......My step-father killed his first wife and her lover when he caught them both in bed at home, back in the 50's. IIRC, the CA law at the time said you had to kill both and had to be found "in the act". He was not charged.........

15 posted on 06/08/2007 12:15:40 PM PDT by Red Badger (Bite your tongue. It tastes a lot better than crow................)
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To: navysealdad

you don’t need to yell..if I’m incorrect, I stand corrected..


16 posted on 06/08/2007 12:15:52 PM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (Every Democrat Party cause eventually becomes a business then it degenerates into a racket.)
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To: VeniVidiVici

The judge is married, but the prosecutor is not!


17 posted on 06/08/2007 12:17:58 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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To: NorCalRepub

Paris is now back to the full 45 days, while Mary W. gets 60 for murder.

Hopefully someone in the media will pick up on this. The Winkler family must be devastated, and rightfully so.


18 posted on 06/08/2007 12:20:06 PM PDT by Joann37
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

The three years is the technical sentence, but it’s split between incarceration and probation. In theory it’s 210 days in custody, split 60 days in the mental hospital, 150 days incarcerated. The catch is that she has already done 150 days.

So it’s really just 60 days in the looney bin.


19 posted on 06/08/2007 12:20:48 PM PDT by freespirited
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To: navysealdad

Well, she did have to wear stripper boots! Farese is a known quanity in the area as a good lawyer. I went to school with his sister.


20 posted on 06/08/2007 12:21:10 PM PDT by Sybeck1 (Bush on Immigration: Damn the Base, Full Speed Ahead!)
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To: Coldwater Creek

Shot husband in back while sleeping. No evidence she was abused, only her word....


21 posted on 06/08/2007 12:21:37 PM PDT by navysealdad
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To: navysealdad
I have been very surprised at my reaction to Mary’s case.

Found myself very sympathetic. I think it was the smug look on her in laws faces.

22 posted on 06/08/2007 12:26:24 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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To: Sybeck1

You are right, Mary had the best defense that money could buy.
(I think that they did it for free)


23 posted on 06/08/2007 12:28:21 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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To: ishabibble

Very wrong. 60 days? What about life?


24 posted on 06/08/2007 12:29:48 PM PDT by darkangel82 (Socialism is NOT an American value.)
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To: darkangel82

Shep is making the comparison now between Winkler and Paris Hilton.


25 posted on 06/08/2007 12:34:09 PM PDT by Joann37
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To: Coldwater Creek
His parents were no doubt told not to show emotion.

Whatever she was told, I always saw a very hardened look on her face....even during the sentencing.

The children are with his parents.....they don't have it easy.

60 days for shooting a sleeping man in the back........words fail me.

26 posted on 06/08/2007 12:38:53 PM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President, 2008!!)
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To: navysealdad
Mary Winkler's husband made her dress up in high heels and act sexy, so she shot him in the back with a shotgun while he was sleeping, killing him. Poor little thing...let's give her time served and 60 days in a hospital room, and then let her get back to her kids and re-start her life without that overbearing husband in the way.

Un-frickin'-believable.

27 posted on 06/08/2007 12:39:10 PM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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To: Verloona Ti
It has always been much harder to convict a woman in America, particularly an attractive woman.

I recently read a book about sensational murder cases in Chicago during the 20s.

Several open and shut cases where women murdered their husbands in cold blood. Acquitted by the all male juries.

The musical and movie Chicago were (very) loosely based on these cases.

28 posted on 06/08/2007 12:50:43 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Diversity in theory is the enemy of diversity in practice.)
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To: ishabibble

This reminds me of a movie can’t remember name starred that guy that used to be married to Cindy Crawford—Geer or something like that, he defends this guy and gets him off. The guy acts so dumb and innocent, then after he is found innocent, they found out what a really evil person the defendant was. Winkler looks sneaky to me. A lot isn’t right with that woman. She wants her kids, the question is do they want her.
Oh horror of horrors he made her wear a wig and platform shoes. (According to her)


29 posted on 06/08/2007 12:52:14 PM PDT by mel
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To: navysealdad

Whoa! I thought the news said she got 3 years in the pokey.


30 posted on 06/08/2007 12:53:16 PM PDT by gimme1ibertee (Fred is here.....and now it'll be all right.)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

I took it as the sentence was WRONG not you


31 posted on 06/08/2007 12:53:22 PM PDT by mel
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To: Guenevere

Have you ever met someone and they were real quiet and you thought oh they were just some little mousey thing, then you see their real character. Winkler reminds me of that.


32 posted on 06/08/2007 12:55:16 PM PDT by mel
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To: Sherman Logan

Winkler isn’t what I would call attractive however


33 posted on 06/08/2007 12:55:56 PM PDT by mel
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To: navysealdad
Mary Winkler gets 60 days in mental hospital..

It would be interesting to see if there is a spike in the sales
of shotguns
and/or
shotgun shells to female customers for the next couple of months...
34 posted on 06/08/2007 12:56:38 PM PDT by VOA
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To: mel
Primal Fear and it’s got one of the best ending of any movie ever. Edward Norton should have gotten the Oscar for that role.

Sneaky Mary’s judge probably didn’t see the photos of Mary in the cheesy lounge, downing a few drinking and smoking a cigarette while perched on a barstool with the “come hither” look on her face. WHILE OUT ON BAIL FOR MURDER. She’s an even better actress than Ed Norton.

35 posted on 06/08/2007 12:58:34 PM PDT by ishabibble (ALL AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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Winkler isn’t what I would call attractive however

Honestly, she'd be a "7" or an "8" at one of the colleges/universities
affiliated with the mainstream Churches of Christ.

With the exception of Pepperdine University in Los Angeles.
36 posted on 06/08/2007 1:01:26 PM PDT by VOA
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To: navysealdad

No, correct. She got three years but credit for time served which would give her less than a year to finish in jail.

But the judge held open that she could serve that time in a mental institution.

I live near Nashville and the local reporting is better on this than Court TV.


37 posted on 06/08/2007 1:02:14 PM PDT by Fledermaus (The Republican party is dead! Let's start over. Nevermind, what's the point?)
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To: navysealdad

http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070608/NEWS03/70608025


38 posted on 06/08/2007 1:03:36 PM PDT by Fledermaus (The Republican party is dead! Let's start over. Nevermind, what's the point?)
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To: navysealdad

Just remember, she is a white female who was “mentally tourtered” by her husband....SO SHE GETS A FREE PASS ! If a white man did that to his wife, there would BE HELL TO PAY.

Isn’t PC and equal rights wonderful?


39 posted on 06/08/2007 1:55:49 PM PDT by texson66 ("Tyranny is yielding to the lust of the governing." - Lord Moulton)
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To: Guenevere

Well, then the parents were given wrong advice. A little emotion (tears) would have gone a long way with me, if I had been on that jury.


40 posted on 06/08/2007 1:58:38 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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To: VOA
Isn't Pepperdine a Nazarene school?
41 posted on 06/08/2007 2:02:14 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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To: VOA
I apologize! I’m wrong!
42 posted on 06/08/2007 2:04:48 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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To: VeniVidiVici

What a catch she’ll be for some lucky guy.


43 posted on 06/08/2007 2:06:19 PM PDT by Route797
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To: navysealdad
Similar to another pastors wife in St. Petersburg Florida who stabbed her husband in the femoral artery while he was sleeping. Claimed that he had “abused” her. Court bought it and she got a short term and then was released.

Happened about six or seven years ago, IIRC.

44 posted on 06/08/2007 2:06:27 PM PDT by Mr. Jazzy (Very Proud Dad of LCpl Smoothguy242 USMC of 1/3 Marines, now fighting for freedom, on duty in Iraq.)
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To: freespirited

“The three years is the technical sentence, but it’s split between incarceration and probation. In theory it’s 210 days in custody, split 60 days in the mental hospital, 150 days incarcerated. The catch is that she has already done 150 days.

So it’s really just 60 days in the looney bin.”


She’s really lucky she didn’t anger Special Prosecutor Fitzgerald or go before Judge Reggie for sentencing - she might have actually been sentenced for murder!


45 posted on 06/08/2007 2:18:34 PM PDT by Rembrandt (We would have won Viet Nam w/o Dim interference.)
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An interesting note is that the prosecutor and the judge both live, and go to the same church in an other county.
46 posted on 06/08/2007 2:22:01 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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Isn't Pepperdine a Nazarene school?

It was founded with $$$ from Pepperdine, the guy who founded
the Western Auto chain.

It is comes in for plenty of criticism for being too liberal
by the flyover-country Church of Christ members...but when I worked
a while in LA, everyone I met thought of it as a hotbed of
right-wing Christian fundamentalist militia members!
(I suspect a lot of that is jealous UCLA folks that look at
that Malibu campus whenever they drive up the Pacific Coast Highway...
and realize UCLA turned down a proposal to move UCLA to Malibu in
the post WWII era.)

I have a cousin that graduated from Pepperdine maybe 10 years ago;
she has assured me that Pepperdine U. is not an armed camp!
She said that one of her best courses there was taught by Ben Stein.

As for a Nazarene school...you might have been thinking of Point Loma
Nazarene. I think Dr. James Dobson (Focus On The Family) was
an undergrad there.
47 posted on 06/08/2007 2:25:59 PM PDT by VOA
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To: navysealdad
There was a time in this country when a husband could beat a wife unconscious and would only get a reprimand by the doctor at the hospital. I hope those days never return. Now, a wife can kill her husband in cold blood, and she gets the therapist’s couch and a bottle of pills. I think we have reversed the order and added cream on the top.
48 posted on 06/08/2007 2:33:08 PM PDT by jonrick46
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To: snarks_when_bored

While our media followed the travails of privileged, spoiled brat, Paris Hilton, Mary Winkler got away with murder in Tennessee.


49 posted on 06/08/2007 2:53:19 PM PDT by Continental Soldier
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To: navysealdad

I think that is DISGUSTING. He didn’t even get to tell his side of the story, to stand up for himself, and the judge bought it? His parents are right — she killed him again by slandering him. And I hope the parents get custody. I mean, how sick, the children stay with the parent who killed the other parent??

Caught in the act/ that is different. Murder while sleeping .... How about using your words? How about just filing for a divorce? Boy, if that were MY son I’d be fried too.


50 posted on 06/08/2007 4:06:05 PM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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