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I'm just pointing out you constantly defend criminal hackers and communists, just as you're doing again here now. You also have a problem with lying, as we saw you try to deny my claim that Microsoft is only paying for licenses, and not ongoing patent royalties, which you now admit was just a guess, an apparently bogus one at that. If you have any more lies or defenses of hackers and communists, I suggest you post them elsewhere.

I'm just pointing out you constantly defend criminal hackers and communists

There you go again, throwing out that word "criminal" when you have not shown that the hackers in that case are even eligible for criminal prosecution for their actions, much less have been convicted of anything. You're lucky libel isn't a criminal offense. And what is this about defending communists?

You also have a problem with lying, as we saw you try to deny my claim that Microsoft is only paying for licenses, and not ongoing patent royalties

Making a statement, being shown it is not necessarily true, then immediately admitting it isn't a lie. It's a mistake. I remember only one case where you admitted a mistake after a LOT of prodding, otherwise you just distract from your lies, like you are doing right now.

It's very hard to clean up after your mess. It's like playing whack-a-mole with your lies because you switch subjects and go on the offensive on unrelated tangents when we confront a lie.

So here's your chance, 'fess up, just for this thread, on the following lies, distortions and unsupported claims:

DVD Jon is in Amsterdam
That Linus Torvalds didn't receive fair compensation for his work
That Linus Torvalds has communist leanings due to his father's politics
That he lacks concern in protecting his work
"most" Linux users don't pay for their use of well-known patented technology, such as DVD ... players (it's not a patent issue, but a DMCA issue, as DeCSS goes around the need to license a player. BTW, the crypto export controls you loved so much are one reason that DVD encryption is so weak)
"lies you've outright admitted to about where hackers are from and now living" When did I say where Fyodor is living?

You also have a problem with lying, as we saw you try to deny my claim that Microsoft is only paying for licenses, and not ongoing patent royalties

Oh damn, I definitely do now because I was right! Microsoft pays Novell $108 million for patents, while Novell pays Microsoft $40 million.

If you have any more lies

Nope, but I'm sure I'll have yet more truths coming your way.