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A Racy Twist for "Survivor" [Whites vs. Blacks vs. Asians vs. Hispanics]
E! Online via Yahoo! ^ | Wednesday, August 23, 2006 | Gina Serpe

Posted on 08/23/2006 5:06:13 PM PDT by Momaw Nadon

Some may call it exploiting racial tensions. CBS calls it darn good television.

Jeff Probst popped in on The Early Show Wednesday morning, confirming the reports that the 20 castaways for Survivor: Cook Islands will be grouped by race, with competitors divided into four tribes consisting of whites, blacks, Asians and Hispanics.

Apparently, "separate but equal" holds only the warmest of connotations for Mark Burnett.

Like a good host, Probst had nothing but praise for the producers' controversial brainchild, calling the exercise in segregation a valuable social experiment, rather than a stunt to dig up some controversy--and raise ratings.

"The idea for this actually came from the criticism that Survivor was not ethnically diverse enough, because for whatever reason, we always have a low number of minority applicants apply for the show," Probst said.

"So we set out and said, 'Let's turn this criticism into creative for the show.' And I think it fits perfectly with what Survivor does, which is, it is a social experiment. And this is adding another layer to that experiment, which is taking the show to a completely different level."

Different level, yes. Good level, still to be determined.

"If I had been a producer of this show, it is not an idea I would have come up with or given approval to," Robert Thompson, director of the Center for the Study of Popular Television at Syracuse University, told E! Online. "It's like a return back to segregated leagues in sports. The unseemly interest this will invite certainly is not worth the dramatic elements it's going to bring."

"To the less-than-open minded person, it is very easy to trash us," Burnett explained to Entertainment Weekly. "But we're smart enough to not make it negative. We're smart enough to have gotten rid of every racist person in casting."

Though more to the point, the producers haven't and can't weed out every racially sensitive person in their audience who may take offense to the seemingly archaic, and potentially socially irresponsible, division.

While the 43-year-old host admitted that the players themselves had "mixed reactions" to the racial separation, he made clear that the division was not meant to incite any controversy, add to the tension during the competition or simply be viewed as a gimmick.

"Our original idea was simply to have the most ethnically diverse group of people on TV. It wasn't until we got to casting and started noticing this theme of ethnic pride that we started thinking, 'Wow, if culture is still playing such a big part in these people's lives, that's our idea. Let's divide them based on ethnicity,' " he said.

Though not everyone is as excited about the idea as Probst and his Survivor crew.

"It sounds like a gimmick a lot of people are going to have real issues as to the taste of," Thompson said.

Referencing Burnett's previous experiments on Survivor and The Apprentice to divide teams by boys vs. girls and, more recently on the latter, by street smarts vs. book smarts, Thompson said that "these things don't often work so well in less dicey situations."

And any publicity is good publicity, right?

"As far as getting some attention, getting it talked about again, this'll do it," Thompson said. "Survivor is a great game. It's the gold standard of reality TV. But nobody seems to talk about it anymore."

Or watch it.

Survivor: Cook Islands will be the reality show's 13th installment and comes on the heels of the least watched season in the series' history. Despite garnering an Emmy nod for Best Reality Competition, Survivor: Panama--Exile Island, which split the tribes based on gender and age, averaged a franchise-low 16.8 million viewers. Hence the latest drastic measure.

CBS Entertainment president Nina Tassler told EW that while she was hesitant to give the go-ahead on the "risky idea," she finally relented, saying it was the logical next step in "a show that explores social politics."

"It's not just 18 white people," Probst told the magazine. "Suddenly you have new slang, new rituals--people doing things like making fire in ways that haven't been done on Survivor. I think we have a season where people will say you can never go back to what you were before."

It's not the first time a primetime reality show has flirted with race, though it will be the first time one follows through.

Last year, Donald Trump hinted that The Apprentice was toying with the idea of dividing his two teams by race, only to backtrack on the notion when backlash started up, saying "I personally don't like it, so it will never happen."

Survivor: Cook Islands kicks off Sept. 14. Here's a list of the competitors:

* Rebecca Borman, 24, makeup artist, Laurelton, New York

* Anh-Tuan "Cao Boi" Bui, 42, nail salon manager, Christiansburg, Virginia

* Sekou Bunch, 45, jazz musician, Los Angeles

* J.P. Calderon, 30, pro volleyball player, Marina Del Rey, California

* Cristina Coria, 35, police officer, Los Angeles

* Stephannie Favor, 35, nursing student, Columbia, South Carolina

* Billy Garcia, 36, heavy metal guitarist, New York City

* Adam Gentry, 28, copier sales, San Diego

* Nathan Gonzalez, 26, retail sales, Los Angeles

* Jenny Guzon-Bae, 36, real estate agent, Lake Forest, Illinois

* Yul Kwon, 31, management consultant, San Mateo, California

* Becky Lee, 28, attorney, Washington, D.C.

* Oscar "Ozzy" Lusth, 25, waiter, Venice, California

* Cecilia Mansilla, 29, technology risk consultant, Oakland

* Sundra Oakley, 31, actress, Los Angeles

* Jonathan Penner, 44, writer/producer, Los Angeles

* Parvati Shallow, 23, boxer/waitress, Los Angeles

* Jessica Smith, 27, performance artist/rollergirl, Chico, California

* Brad Virata, 29, fashion director, Los Angeles

* Candice Woodcock, 23, premed student, Fayetteville, North Carolina


TOPICS: TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: asian; asians; black; blacks; cbs; hispanic; hispanics; justplainwrong; race; racism; racist; racy; segregation; sick; survivor; tribes; twist; twisted; viacom; white; whites; wrong
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To: Momaw Nadon

Just damn. This is just plain retarded.

I've been a semi-fan of Survivor to this point, but they don't need to worry about me this time around.

With the push-back on this, it wouldn't surprise me if CBS backs off of this one... With the show being as highly-rated as it is in general, I'm truly curious as to what rocket scientist thought this one up.


21 posted on 08/23/2006 6:10:37 PM PDT by mhking ("Lotion -- apply directly to your skin; Lotion -- apply directly to your skin...")
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To: Momaw Nadon
The last thing America needs is more racial division. We are a melting pot, not a salad bowl. CBS should be ashamed of this crude attempt to balkanize America. Racism needs to be relegated to the dustbin of history, once and for all. CBS's idea for "fascinating" TV only divides us as a nation.

I'm far more confident in America being able to tell that they're watching not just a television program, but one that is designed to entertain. If someone is 'divided' by a television program, then perhaps they should reexamine their priorities in life. What happens if there's four teams of four different races, and they perform and operate pretty much the same way? Doesn't that help show wht you're advocating, that we're more the same than different?

But where was your arguments when they were separating tribes by age and sex? I missed that - so it's ok to notice that someone's over 40 or has dangly parts, but not ok to notice their ethnic heritage?
22 posted on 08/23/2006 6:11:34 PM PDT by kingu (No, I don't use sarcasm tags - it confuses people.)
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To: Momaw Nadon

Low ratings? What a trashy idea.


23 posted on 08/23/2006 6:12:29 PM PDT by cyborg (No I don't miss the single life at all.)
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To: kingu

Noticing someone's ethnic heritage can be irritating. Trust me on that one.


24 posted on 08/23/2006 6:14:40 PM PDT by cyborg (No I don't miss the single life at all.)
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To: cyborg
Low ratings? What a trashy idea.

Nope -- their ratings are higher than ever. Some pencil pusher thought this would be a "good idea."

What's even scarier is that Leo Terrell was just on Scarborough foaming at the mouth about this whole thing....

25 posted on 08/23/2006 6:15:57 PM PDT by mhking ("Lotion -- apply directly to your skin; Lotion -- apply directly to your skin...")
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To: mhking

Poor Leo. He better watch out with that whole anger trip and learn from Khalid Muhammad!


26 posted on 08/23/2006 6:17:45 PM PDT by cyborg (No I don't miss the single life at all.)
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To: Momaw Nadon
Ditto that.

I'm giving up television.

27 posted on 08/23/2006 6:18:53 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: cyborg
Being of mixed racial backgrounds, I can understand how it can be irritating. And does racism exist today? Absolutely. My sister (who is over 50) was out on a date with a gentleman. He inquired about her family, and when he found out that she's of part American Indian ancestry, he said they couldn't date anymore.

It completely boggled her (and myself) - what would it matter anyway - she's not going to be reproducing with him. But it was a 'relationship ender' with him.

To deny that racism exists is silly - to declare that it exists on a large level is equally silly. I may choose to walk on the other side of the street than a group of Hispanics who are hanging out, but that's because of how they are dressed and act more than their ethnic background - I've done the same with others of other ethnic backgrounds dressed out in the 'gangsta' style.
28 posted on 08/23/2006 6:22:39 PM PDT by kingu (No, I don't use sarcasm tags - it confuses people.)
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To: mhking
Some pencil pusher thought this would be a "good idea."

This show, CBS, and their advertisers need to be boycotted.

CBS thinks blatant segregation and racism is a "good idea"?

This is America in 2006. I can't believe there is not more outrage against this blatantly racist show.

29 posted on 08/23/2006 6:22:58 PM PDT by Momaw Nadon ("...with the ultimate goal of ending tyranny in our world.")
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To: kingu

I think this season will have very high ratings because of the curiosity factor. There was a show called 'black-white' or something like that. It was supposed to be a 'black like me' experience. The concept is interesting but most of the time I see it as liberal sh*t stirring.


30 posted on 08/23/2006 6:26:14 PM PDT by cyborg (No I don't miss the single life at all.)
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To: Momaw Nadon

They've run out of ideas like the rest of hollywood.


31 posted on 08/23/2006 6:27:18 PM PDT by cyborg (No I don't miss the single life at all.)
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To: mhking
As a long time Survivor fan, I have to say their "twists" and separation of teams never last more than one or two episodes. The only other time the had 4 teams it was split gender and age, and after the first episode they merged into two tribes. With the way the game is played I don't see this lasting. I think the shock factor will bring in viewers, and generally once they are in, they stay.

Having said all that, I find it fascinating. I think that we should all be proud of our ethnic heritages, yet still remember in the end we are human first, race second. It will be more interesting to me after they merge if they will "stick" together. In fact I heard the host, Jeff Probst, say today that the winner will be the one that gets along with all the people the best, not just his/her own group. I think in the end this could be a very enlightening program. (Call me PollyAnna)

32 posted on 08/23/2006 6:33:00 PM PDT by codercpc
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To: codercpc
As a long time Survivor fan, ....

And you think that gives you more credibilty than the posters who have never seen the show?

33 posted on 08/23/2006 6:36:43 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (\\"You can either accept science and face reality, or live in a childish dream world" - Lisa Simpson)
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To: Oztrich Boy
To tell you the truth, I've never watched the show, ever.

I figure the black team will be allowed to wear lifejackets for the swimmin' event...

34 posted on 08/23/2006 6:41:38 PM PDT by traditional1
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To: Momaw Nadon

Carlos Mencia already did this with the Stereotype Olympics


35 posted on 08/23/2006 6:43:26 PM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: All

Stereotype olympics
Mind of Mencia

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Z4DTAngL00Y&search=stereotype%20olympics

White guy, Mexican, Arab, Black and Chinese


36 posted on 08/23/2006 6:46:28 PM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: Momaw Nadon

You're kidding, right?


37 posted on 08/23/2006 7:11:30 PM PDT by Jedidah
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To: Momaw Nadon

LOL. I saw that interview on The Early Show this morning. The liberal host of the show -- is it Charlie Gibson? -- was aghast. He said something like, "But the viewers will root for the contestants of their own race!" I mean, he was seriously upset about that.


38 posted on 08/23/2006 7:16:17 PM PDT by alnick
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To: Momaw Nadon

Why? What's so racist about it? What's so racist about acknowledging that some people are white, some are black, some are Asian, etc.? It's completely natural.

Frankly, I don't care how they sort them into teams. It's no different than if they were to have the blondes compete against the brunettes.


39 posted on 08/23/2006 7:20:11 PM PDT by alnick
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To: Momaw Nadon

Look at what the men do for a living, not a masculine job in the bunch.

Remember this is less about race, and more about carefully, handpicked by experts, people, that are expected by casting to deliver certain personalities to the show.


40 posted on 08/23/2006 7:25:42 PM PDT by ansel12 (Life is exquisite... of great beauty, keenly felt.)
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