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Boston Redsox...another September FLOP.

Posted on 09/22/2005 9:48:33 PM PDT by maineman

AL East NY Yankees (10) 89 63 .586 -- Boston Redsox 88 64 .579 1.0

Wild Card Cleveland (9) 90 63 -- 9 Games Left Boston Redsox 88 64 1.5 10 Games Left

Jerry Beach - Scout.com September 22, 2005 at 6:20am ET The Red Sox lost their stranglehold on first place in the AL East Wednesday, when they lost 7-4 to the Devil Rays in St. Petersburg, FL and fell a half-game behind the surging Yankees, who beat the Orioles 2-1, and a game behind the Indians, who whipped the stumbling White Sox 8-0, in the wild card race.

Considering the Sox spent just one day out of first place between June 24 and Wednesday, the big question in Boston today will likely sound something like this: How could the Sox be on the verge of such an epic collapse?

A better question: How did they spend that long in first place in the, well, first place?

If the Sox manage to recover from this current mini-funk-and they are on the outside looking in today in the AL East and wild card races due more to the blistering pace set by the Yankees (32-16 since Aug. 1) and Indians (34-12 since Aug. 1) than their own incompetence; the Sox are a not-so-shabby 29-19 themselves since Aug. 1-and make the playoffs, it will qualify as a minor baseball miracle given the tattered state of their pitching staff.

The Sox rank 11th in the American League in ERA at 4.77. According to research conducted by Manchester Union-Leader baseball writer-and Diehard staffer-Alex Speier, no team has ever won the World Series with an ERA higher than 4.76 (Yankees in 2000). Since division play began in 1969, Speier reported only two teams have ever won the World Series after finishing in the bottom half of their league in ERA-the 1987 Twins (10th in the 14-team AL) and the 1992 Blue Jays (ninth).

In addition, Tim Wakefield and Bronson Arroyo -the top two Sox pitchers in ERA and the only starters who have made yet to miss a turn in the rotation-are on pace to post a higher combined ERA than the top duos on previous pitching-challenged world champions.

Wakefield and Arroyo are 28-20 with a 4.19 ERA. Roger Clemens and Andy Pettitte went 32-17 with a 4.03 ERA for the Yankees in 2000, Jack Morris and Juan Guzman went 37-11 with a 3.23 ERA for the Blue Jays in 1992 and Bert Blyleven and Frank Viola went 37-22 with a 3.47 ERA for the Twins in 1987.

Of course, those Yankees, Twins and Blue Jays did not have a wild card quite like Curt Schilling, whose struggles this season-bouncing between the rotation and the closer's role, Schilling is 7-8 with nine saves and a 5.89 ERA-have adversely affected both the rotation and the bullpen. Nobody embraces the big stage quite like Schilling, who enjoyed his best outing of the season in a must-win game against the Yankees Sept. 10 and put together another strong start in a similarly vital game against the Devil Rays Tuesday, and if he rises to the occasion like he did last year, the entire dynamic of the Sox' rotation changes.

But aside from Wakefield, nobody in the Sox rotation is a candidate to throw a complete game. And the Sox bullpen has endured its share of issues this season, as we'll discuss Friday.


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Last years World Series victory was, well, last year. Looks like were back to good 'ole Bosox baseball...UGH!
1 posted on 09/22/2005 9:48:34 PM PDT by maineman
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To: maineman

Could anything top last year? Anything?


2 posted on 09/22/2005 9:50:48 PM PDT by Mears (The Killer Queen)
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To: maineman
So which curse is it this time--curse of the Big Dig, curse of Chappaquiddick, curse of the loser presidential candidate....
3 posted on 09/22/2005 9:55:03 PM PDT by rottndog (WOOF!!!!)
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To: maineman

Go Yankees!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


4 posted on 09/22/2005 9:55:18 PM PDT by USMC Veteran ("Life is tough. Life is tougher if you're stupid." - John Wayne)
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To: maineman

Not a good time if you are either Sox team, White or Red.


5 posted on 09/22/2005 9:56:26 PM PDT by dfwgator (Flower Mound, TX)
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To: maineman

Do you have a source and working link for this?


6 posted on 09/22/2005 9:59:34 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: rottndog
So which curse is it this time...

curse of the Big Dig,

curse of Chappaquiddick,

curse of the loser presidential candidate....

Can I pick "All of the Above?"

7 posted on 09/22/2005 10:01:47 PM PDT by JRios1968 (Ok, Children, once again: Read comment...Think...Then post reply...always in that order)
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Go Yankees!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No way. With allstars at every position they should be well over 100 wins by now. I know, pitching. Well I can only hope for baseball they fail to make the playoffs. We really need an NFL type salary cap in baseball. Until that happens NY, Boston and a few others will be in every year.

I hate the Yankees BUT I appreciate your service to our Country.


8 posted on 09/22/2005 10:02:12 PM PDT by maineman
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To: rottndog

Curse of the Botox.


9 posted on 09/22/2005 10:03:15 PM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: JRios1968

Excellent!!!!!!!


10 posted on 09/22/2005 10:03:48 PM PDT by rottndog (WOOF!!!!)
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To: Sidebar Moderator
September 22, 2005 at 6:20am ET The Red Sox lost their stranglehold on first place in the AL East Wednesday, when they lost 7-4 to the Devil Rays in St. Petersburg, FL and fell a half-game behind the surging Yankees, who beat the Orioles 2-1, and a game behind the Indians, who whipped the stumbling White Sox 8-0, in the wild card race.
11 posted on 09/22/2005 10:03:53 PM PDT by maineman
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To: Sidebar Moderator

Jerry Beach - Scout.com


12 posted on 09/22/2005 10:04:37 PM PDT by maineman
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To: rottndog

Thank you...Google Image Search is my new best friend!


13 posted on 09/22/2005 10:06:05 PM PDT by JRios1968 (Ok, Children, once again: Read comment...Think...Then post reply...always in that order)
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To: USMC Veteran

Go Yankees!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Ditto!!!


14 posted on 09/22/2005 10:10:50 PM PDT by SoCalPol (More Died At Chappaquiddic than Guantanamo)
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To: maineman

Since we'er talking Red Sox, I have a question for all
you experts. Ted Williams hit a home run at his last
at bat at his last game.. I wonder how many others have duplicated that fact.


15 posted on 09/22/2005 10:16:31 PM PDT by cliff630 (cliff630 (Didn't Pilate ask Christ, "What is the Truth." Even while looking in the face of TRUTH))
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To: maineman

Return of the Curse.


16 posted on 09/22/2005 10:19:18 PM PDT by Vision Thing
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To: maineman

I seem to recall alot of people laughing at the Yankees early this season. Afterall, they were at the bottom of the standings on the level with the Devilrays.

Oh how things can change. : )

Its seems like yesterday the Oriole fans were clammering that this was their year..... And where are they now?

Go Yankees !!!




17 posted on 09/22/2005 10:54:03 PM PDT by Peace will be here soon (Liberal definition of looting: " Self-help Humanitarian Aid.")
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To: rottndog

Curse of the French presidential candidate.

It is all John Kerry's fault!


18 posted on 09/22/2005 10:58:28 PM PDT by Roy Tucker
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To: maineman

Now that's the RedSox I knew and loved-hated all those years. Bucky Dent!!! "I can't believe Grady left Pedro in" Jim Ed Rice = HDP at the end, Dick Radatz as the closer, Tony C, Yaz, Freddie Lynn, old Stone Fingers, the Spaceman, Luis Tiant, Carleton Fisk, yada, yada, yada


19 posted on 09/22/2005 11:36:33 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("Freedom of speech makes it much easier to spot the idiots." [Jay Lessig, 2/7/2005])
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To: cliff630
It does seem like a remarkable feat. My SWAG would be Twenty others.

Actually what is more remarkable is both some of the other people (Tony Kubek, Mickey Cochrane, Joe Rudi) but also two guys, apparently, did it on the same day!

20 posted on 09/22/2005 11:37:50 PM PDT by Michael.SF. ('That was the gift the president gave us, the gift of happiness, of being together,' Cindy Sheehan")
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