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JPFO ALERT: If You Don't Like the Truth, Don't Read This Alert!
Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership ^ | September 9, 2005 | JPFO

Posted on 09/09/2005 11:28:43 AM PDT by jdhampton

ALERT FROM JEWS FOR THE PRESERVATION OF FIREARMS OWNERSHIP
America's Aggressive Civil Rights Organization

September 9, 2005

JPFO ALERT: If You Don't Like the Truth, Don't Read This Alert!

"Police Begin Seizing Guns of Civilians - Local police officers began confiscating weapons from civilians in preparation for a forced evacuation of the last holdouts..."

It sounds like a headline from _Unintended Consequences_. But it's happening now -- today -- in New Orleans. Law enforcement officials are confiscating the legally-owned firearms from law-abiding citizens without due process, without warrants, and without cause, leaving their owners utterly defenseleses and at the mercy of looters and thugs.

According to an article in the New York Times (http://tinyurl.com/9ot44), the police superintendent P. Edwin Compass III decreed that no civilians in New Orleans will be allowed to carry firearms of any kind, even if they possess permits to do so. "Only law enforcement are allowed to have weapons," he said.

(Well, not quite. The New Orleans police department will not be confiscating the weapons of private security personnel, guaranteeing that only those wealthy enough to afford a private bodyguard can be assured of protection).

Second Amendment advocates have long warned that such confiscations would undoubtedly occur in the event of major catastrophe. That they were right is not a surprise. Sadly, neither is the fact that few gun owners have resisted the confiscations.

Over the years, Americans have become increasingly ignorant about what rights they really have. Inalienable, individual rights have given way to "junk rights" -- privileges to be granted or withheld at the whim of the government. So if the government demands that they give up their guns, it's only natural that they should comply. The police officers and soldiers who are confiscating the firearms are either equally ignorant about citizens' rights ... or _simply don't care_ about following unConstitutional orders.

We've stated repeatedly that we must restore a Bill of Rights culture in this country. Until the populace knows all of its rights _and insist those rights be respected_ , the "brown-shirting" now in New Orleans will only get worse.

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We MUST educate our fellow citizens about the Bill of Rights, or what's happening in New Orleans today probably will happen in your town tomorrow.

Wanna bet the brownshirts aren't lusting to do it?

- The Liberty Crew

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TOPICS: Local News; Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; confiscation; confiscations; firearms; katrina; neworleans
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1 posted on 09/09/2005 11:28:44 AM PDT by jdhampton
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To: jdhampton

I guess this disproves the old claim that "the police and military would never enforce a rule to take our guns away!".


2 posted on 09/09/2005 11:30:12 AM PDT by flashbunny (Why do I have to defend the free market on a web site called free republic???)
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To: flashbunny
Lets not question whether the weapons seized were legal or illegal, whether the weapons seized had been used to fire on rescue helicopter, National guard, police or were used to rob flood victims. Lets not question how at least 4 people found murdered in the Superdome were killed. Citizens with guns have rights. Jesus Christ HELP!!!!
3 posted on 09/09/2005 11:37:10 AM PDT by hflynn ( Soros wouldn't make any sense even if he spelled his name backwards)
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To: jdhampton

http://www.barbneal.com/wav/ltunes/yosemite/Sam38.wav

JPFO is a great organization, so's GOA. Still waiting for NRA's lawyers to get down to NOLA and start filing lawsuits...


4 posted on 09/09/2005 11:38:44 AM PDT by 57chevypreterist
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To: hflynn

"Lets not question whether the weapons seized were legal or illegal, whether the weapons seized had been used to fire on rescue helicopter, National guard, police or were used to rob flood victims. Lets not question how at least 4 people found murdered in the Superdome were killed. Citizens with guns have rights. Jesus Christ HELP!!!"

Do you have a point there?

Is it that taking away guns from law abiding citizens who planned ahead and supplied their homes were the ones used in the murders and the super dome?

Exactly what is your point?


5 posted on 09/09/2005 11:39:48 AM PDT by flashbunny (Why do I have to defend the free market on a web site called free republic???)
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To: jdhampton

It's gunna git ugly if govment knocks on my door to take what I own. That is all I have to say.


6 posted on 09/09/2005 11:43:20 AM PDT by chapin2500
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To: hflynn

What are you talking about?


7 posted on 09/09/2005 11:44:10 AM PDT by chapin2500
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To: jdhampton

All gun rights organizations from coast to coast and all law-abiding firearms owners need to spread the word about the violation of the Bill of Rights that is being perpetrated in New Orleans. Everyone should know that this travesty is occurring in a state that has a DEMOCRAT governor and in a city that has a DEMOCRAT mayor.

The Democrats have been trying to make it look like they're getting on the right side of the gun rights issue, because they know their anti-gun stance consistently costs them elections. We need to let them know that they have literally shot themselves in the foot.

I do not believe that any public official in Mississippi, Republican or Democrat, black or white, would allow confiscation of firearms from law-abiding citizens along the Gulf Coast. They know better.


8 posted on 09/09/2005 11:47:49 AM PDT by billnaz (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't you understand?)
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To: hflynn

It almost sounds like you are advocating preemptive guilty proclamations on all gun owners as a lazy alternative to seeking out actual perpetrators on the merits of criminal evidence. But I must be mistaken. You aren't really saying that, are you?


9 posted on 09/09/2005 11:50:09 AM PDT by Antonello
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To: flashbunny
I guess this disproves the old claim that "the police and military would never enforce a rule to take our guns away!".

Lol I think.

10 posted on 09/09/2005 11:52:29 AM PDT by Nov3 ("This is the best election night in history." --DNC chair Terry McAuliffe Nov. 2,2004 8p.m.)
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To: jdhampton

Where have the Jackboots gone?!?!?!?


11 posted on 09/09/2005 11:52:57 AM PDT by Nov3 ("This is the best election night in history." --DNC chair Terry McAuliffe Nov. 2,2004 8p.m.)
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To: chapin2500

http://www.barbneal.com/wav/ltunes/daffy/Daffy04.wav


12 posted on 09/09/2005 11:53:19 AM PDT by 57chevypreterist
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To: 57chevypreterist

Whats it say? I have no speakers.


13 posted on 09/09/2005 11:56:18 AM PDT by chapin2500
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To: flashbunny
Is it that taking away guns from law abiding citizens who planned ahead and supplied their homes were the ones used in the murders and the super dome?

There taking weapons from everyone. Nobody in NO with their life's on the line gives a shit whether the citizen is or isn't a law abiding. Exactly what is my point? Seize every weapon and sort it out later before some law abiding citizen, who refuses to obey the authorities and leave, finds himself convicted of murder. And by the way, the police seizing these weapons today may have to come back tomorrow to forcefully remove these very same citizens. Nice of you watching on TV to demand these citizens have weapons when the police return so that you sitting out of harms way can feel your guns are safe.

14 posted on 09/09/2005 12:13:16 PM PDT by hflynn ( Soros wouldn't make any sense even if he spelled his name backwards)
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To: hflynn

"There taking weapons from everyone. Nobody in NO with their life's on the line gives a shit whether the citizen is or isn't a law abiding. Exactly what is my point? Seize every weapon and sort it out later before some law abiding citizen, who refuses to obey the authorities and leave, finds himself convicted of murder. And by the way, the police seizing these weapons today may have to come back tomorrow to forcefully remove these very same citizens. Nice of you watching on TV to demand these citizens have weapons when the police return so that you sitting out of harms way can feel your guns are safe."

I don't know what's worse, your spelling and grammar or your (lack of) respect for individual freedom.

Yes, take away guns from the law abiding, because you're going to be getting all the guns from the criminals.

Guess what: That has never worked. Criminals don't obey laws, and when the cops come for their guns, they won't be anywhere around.

And when the cops leave, the criminals will have their guns and the law abiding citizens will be defenseless.

So, I guess there's three strikes against you: Can't spell, don't give a crap about freedom and rights, and you lack the ability to logically think through a situation.


15 posted on 09/09/2005 12:17:05 PM PDT by flashbunny (Why do I have to defend the free market on a web site called free republic???)
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To: flashbunny
I don't know what's worse, your spelling and grammar or your (lack of) respect for individual freedom.

In varies, sometimes spelling, other times grammar. I have no respect for individual freedom (try the plural, it works better) when you are the individual.

Yes, take away guns from the law abiding, because you're going to be getting all the guns from the criminals.

Very good. You were able to understand we are taking all the guns.

Guess what: That has never worked. Criminals don't obey laws, and when the cops come for their guns, they won't be anywhere around.

And when the cops leave, the criminals will have their guns and the law abiding citizens will be defenseless.

Guess what: 60% of the NO is still underwater, the criminals haven't gone anywhere.

So, I guess there's three strikes against you: Can't spell, don't give a crap about freedom and rights, and you lack the ability to logically think through a situation.br>

I'm not playing baseball but I have a feeling if you are you would be more interested in 4 balls rather than 3 strikes. I've thought the situation through and came to the exact same conclusion as the boots on the ground in NO, You didn't. So don't talk to me about the ability to logically think throught a situation.

16 posted on 09/09/2005 12:48:15 PM PDT by hflynn ( Soros wouldn't make any sense even if he spelled his name backwards)
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To: hflynn
There taking weapons from everyone

If you are licensed and law abiding this should not happen. The second amendment is #2 for a reason, it is VERY important to our safety and freedom. If they want to take weapons from the law abiding let them do it when they try to board a plane.

17 posted on 09/09/2005 12:52:51 PM PDT by chapin2500
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To: chapin2500
If you are licensed and law abiding this should not happen. The second amendment is #2 for a reason, it is VERY important to our safety and freedom. If they want to take weapons from the law abiding let them do it when they try to board a plane.

Sorry sir, A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, is seizing the weapons.

18 posted on 09/09/2005 12:58:20 PM PDT by hflynn ( Soros wouldn't make any sense even if he spelled his name backwards)
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To: hflynn

The national guard, the army, and the police force are NOT the milita the founding fathers spoke of, genius.

Advice: Quit making a fool of yourself.


19 posted on 09/09/2005 1:01:58 PM PDT by flashbunny (Why do I have to defend the free market on a web site called free republic???)
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To: jdhampton

I received the following in an email and it was un-attributed. I have no idea whom the author is, I would love to have attributed it to them with praise. I have found it so point on, I felt it needed to be dispersed widely and here on FR is a good start.

One man's opinion... AUTHOR UNKNOWN.


School of Hard Knocks

If people haven't been learning the lessons from Katrina that they
absolutely need to learn, then they haven't been paying attention.

1. On Friday evening the National Weather Service predicted the path of the storm heading towards New Orleans. By Saturday morning, it was clear that the storm was growing in strength and it was suggested that people begin evacuating.

2. By Saturday afternoon it was clear that Katrina was growing in strength. The Mayor of New Orleans appeared on TV weepy and sad, expressing concern about what could happen in New Orleans.

3. Sunday morning it was obvious that the storm would hit as a Category 4 or 5.

4. On Sunday the Governor of Louisiana was crying and worried about the state and asked the rest of us to pray for Louisiana.

5. Sunday at 2:00 pm a mandatory evacuation was ordered.

Now let's look at what has happened so far and what we know after the fact:

1. 10% of New Orleans was below the poverty level. It would have been obvious (and was obvious) that these people had no means to leave the city by themselves.

2. Not a single hospital, faced with mandatory evacuation orders, was moved. We've not heard of a SINGLE airlift of patients out of hospitals in the direct path of the storm, moved to areas outside of the impact zone.

3. Not a single school, public, or charter bus left the city carrying people unable to find the means of leaving on their own.

What should happen now:

1. There are hundreds of buses and cars under water in New Orleans and elsewhere in the regions. The Mayor of New Orleans should be brought up on criminal negligence charges for failing to act and refusing assistance until literally after the storm passed and the levees failed.

2. The people should understand that you NEVER elect a sympathetic social worker type to public office. If an individual hasn't served in the military or in an equivalent capacity of managing huge infrastructures and people, they have no business running a government.

3. The Governor of Louisiana should be brought up on criminal negligence charges--she did not call up the National Guard, order a single evacuation plan, or organize shelters until AFTER the disaster hit. She, a babbling idiot, should spend the rest of her days behind bars, watching the death and destruction on a continuous loop in her jail cell.

What people should have learned by now:

When the government says "leave" you LEAVE! You have ready: 3 days of water and food, a "grab and go" bag that contains clothing, toiletries, and cash to get you where you will be safe. If it takes you more than 15 minutes to evacuate, you're doing it wrong and are not sufficiently prepared. If you have more time, you should be able to evacuate with three weeks of supplies.

Every person in your family over the age of about 12 should be trained in the use of firearms. If you live in an area that doesn't allow you to own firearms, MOVE. You should have in your possession a weapon for every member of the family. That includes arming your 12 year old daughter. Because SHE may become separated from you and will need the means of defending herself.

You must have an evacuation plan. Discuss with family every possible need to evacuate--what conditions might require you to leave. Plan the routes, what you'll take, a location to meet up if you are separated, etc. etc.

Do not leave your neighborhood with an empty seat in your car or truck. Make sure you have filled that seat with one of your neighbors. Be prepared to take care of yourself for AT LEAST 3 days.

Expect civil unrest and looting. If you value your property more than the lives of your family, YOU WILL DIE. I repeat: IF YOU VALUE YOUR PROPERTY AND POSSESSIONS MORE THAN YOUR LIFE OR THE LIFE OF YOUR LOVED ONES, YOU WILL DIE.

The Federal Government is not going to be able to help you. As with ALL law enforcement matters and catastrophes, they only come for the clean up. They are not going to help you until AFTER the catastrophe has occurred.

If I hear one more person making a statement that begins with "The President of the United States should..." I am going to punch him in the nose, kick him where it hurts, or knock them over the head with a mallet. This is NOT a Federal matter. There is no way that anyone is capable of doing anything for AT LEAST three days, more likely three weeks.

The Federal Government is not the authority in charge here. The STATE and LOCAL governments are in charge. If the people you've been electing to PROTECT AND SERVE you in your local and state are bureaucrats with no leadership, management, or disaster experience, knowing how to do nothing more than write welfare checks, you are seriously screwed. MOVE.

Looters or anyone stepping outside of civilized behavior should be shot on site--no malice, no concern. You're eradicating pests. Society will be better off without them and the neighborhoods and decent people of the world safer. I'm not talking about someone who is only stealing food or clothing. I'm talking about those taking TVs and other nonessentials. This looting didn't occur when the Mississippi Valley flooded. Civilized people, without prodding and babysitting from government, form distribution networks to equitably distribute food and clothing from the remaining supplies. Civilized human beings DO NOT loot.

You have only one ally in such a disaster: YOU. You are responsible for the health and safety of your family. The looters and thugs of the world WILL crawl from the cracks of society and will prey on you and your neighbors.

This has happened in EVERY SINGLE catastrophe. If you are not prepared! for this, YOU WILL DIE.

Not a single event of this catastrophe is a surprise, with the exception of the extent of the incompetence of the local leadership.


AUTHOR UNKNOWN


20 posted on 09/09/2005 1:03:49 PM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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