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Need Freeper help on recording 8mm camera to VHS
3/21/05 | Old Professer

Posted on 03/21/2005 5:08:02 PM PST by Old Professer

Mayhem reigns in my household; my wife and daughter just got back from Great Lakes where my future son-in-law graduated from basic training and is directly entering A school.

She borrowed a camera to record the events, a Samsung 8MM SCL901 which, when plugged directly into the AV inputs of the TV works fine to watch it, but when plugged into either of the VHS recorders we have here won't record.

What am I (we) doing wrong?


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The camera hums while it is plugged into the mini RCA jacks and we disconnected all other ports to try and make a direct patch on both recorders but still get nothing except when the monitor is plugged in we get this cryptic "unusable signal" message on the lighted screen.
1 posted on 03/21/2005 5:08:02 PM PST by Old Professer
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To: Old Professer

Your VCR Needs to be on channel 0 or Line Input to record it on the VHS tape.


2 posted on 03/21/2005 5:11:09 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (You have a //cuckoo// God given right //Yeeeahrgh!!// to be an //Hello?// atheist)
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To: Old Professer
I'm no expert on A/V equipment per se, but I only have one word for you to ponder: IMPEDANCE.


3 posted on 03/21/2005 5:12:33 PM PST by Viking2002 (Let's get the Insurrection started, already..............)
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To: Old Professer

Two thoughts:

If your TV has AV outputs, try connecting them to the VCR while playing the camera on the TV.

Some VCR's have copy protection circuitry to prevent you from copying commercial tapes. This could be the problem but I have no idea how to get around it


4 posted on 03/21/2005 5:13:22 PM PST by Vermonter
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To: Old Professer

If you have RCA adaptors with three plugs on them (yellow, red, white), the yellow is video, red is right channel audio, and white is left channel audio. Camera is Line out, VCR is Line In.


5 posted on 03/21/2005 5:13:40 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (You have a //cuckoo// God given right //Yeeeahrgh!!// to be an //Hello?// atheist)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

For a moment I thought you were looking for help putting 8MM camera film onto VHS which I did some time ago. Good luck!


6 posted on 03/21/2005 5:16:39 PM PST by Cagey (As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly!!!")
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To: Old Professer

You could get some recording devices for your computer. Upload the 8mm into your hard drive, then record on a DVD.

That is, if you have a DVDw drive.

It isn't that expensive to get film->floppy recording devices. Ask your local Radio Shak or Best Buy.

Doing this would also ensure your image's integrity. (It wouldn't degrade over time after plays, as magnetic tapes tend to.)


7 posted on 03/21/2005 5:17:53 PM PST by MacDorcha ("You can't reverse engineer something that was not engineered to begin with")
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Me? Not me! I don't need help! :)

I've got a maze of wires attached to my TV, VCR and satellite dish, and it all works!

8 posted on 03/21/2005 5:18:37 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (You have a //cuckoo// God given right //Yeeeahrgh!!// to be an //Hello?// atheist)
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To: Old Professer

A brief Google of this model says it is both NTSC and PAL capable. Make sure somewhere in the camera setup, that you have it set to NTSC (the US TV standard) PAL is the European standard and they are not compatible


9 posted on 03/21/2005 5:19:10 PM PST by Vermonter
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Doing this would also ensure your image's integrity. (It wouldn't degrade over time after plays, as magnetic tapes tend to.)

Good point

10 posted on 03/21/2005 5:19:47 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (You have a //cuckoo// God given right //Yeeeahrgh!!// to be an //Hello?// atheist)
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To: MacDorcha

Scratch alot of that. I jsut noticed what you meant. LoL.

If you can't play it on your VHS I would suggest using the VHS as typical and routing the device through the VHS and switching from VHS to Input (Image) at least thats how the oldest VHS I recall was able to work...


11 posted on 03/21/2005 5:21:21 PM PST by MacDorcha ("You can't reverse engineer something that was not engineered to begin with")
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Although you can see a PAL signal on your NTSC set, it will just be a rolling black and white picture, because the PAL framerate is not the same as NTSC.


12 posted on 03/21/2005 5:21:31 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (You have a //cuckoo// God given right //Yeeeahrgh!!// to be an //Hello?// atheist)
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After reading the manual, there is a slight possibility that your camera is in the "PAL" video standard mode. Check the setup menus (read the above .pdf of the manual if necessary) to make sure you are in the "NTSC" mode.

Then, the yellow plug is video, goes to the VIDEO IN jack of the VCR. The black plug is mono audio, and goes to the AUDIO IN L (white) jack. The red AUDIO IN R jack should be open.

Most new VCRs have front panel RCA jacks, which are usually designated "LINE INPUT 2." The rear jacks are "LINE INPUT 1."

13 posted on 03/21/2005 5:21:51 PM PST by Yo-Yo
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Me? Not me! I don't need help! :)

Hahahaha! Perhaps it's I who needs help in "Posting to the correct person 101".

Just as well though, I had no help for the Old Professor anyway.

14 posted on 03/21/2005 5:24:39 PM PST by Cagey (As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly!!!")
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To: BigSkyFreeper

This camera has a "PAL60" mode, which outputs in PAL color and number of lines, but 60 Fields instead of the normal 50 fields.


15 posted on 03/21/2005 5:24:55 PM PST by Yo-Yo
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To: BigSkyFreeper

Never tried it, so don't know what it would look like. Thanks for the input


16 posted on 03/21/2005 5:24:59 PM PST by Vermonter
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Hahahaha! Perhaps it's I who needs help in "Posting to the correct person 101".

ROFL!

17 posted on 03/21/2005 5:27:15 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (You have a //cuckoo// God given right //Yeeeahrgh!!// to be an //Hello?// atheist)
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That may not be true on all TV's. I know mine goes to blue screen if there isn't a signal or if the satellite drops out. It seems to require a signal strong enough to process


18 posted on 03/21/2005 5:28:47 PM PST by Vermonter
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ok, i tried that - it recorded the sound but no picture. I do not have the patch cord for the computer, it is not my camera - it is my daughter's future mother-in-law's.


19 posted on 03/21/2005 5:29:04 PM PST by Old Professer (As darkness is the absence of light, evil is the absence of good; innocence is blind.)
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To: Yo-Yo

PAL60 is what secondary mode my laptop's S-video out has, of course it's default to NTSC.


20 posted on 03/21/2005 5:32:14 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (You have a //cuckoo// God given right //Yeeeahrgh!!// to be an //Hello?// atheist)
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