Remember the Alamo

War of Independence ^ | 1997-2004 | Wallace L. McKeehan,

[af_vet_rr]

One thing puzzles me. I once read a list (I don't have it now) of the names of the men who died defending the Alamo (some names are lost). I'm sure that a good many more than three of the names were Hispanic.

Out of the 189 or so that died at the Alamo, only about 60-80 were actually from Texas. Out of those 189, only six were actually born in Texas: Juan Abamillo, Juan A. Badillo, Carlos Espalier, Gregorio Esparza, Antonio Fuentes, and Andrés Nava. There were more Hispanics at the Alamo before the battle, but most were sent out to find reinforcements (Juan Seguin being the most well-known).

Most who fought at the Alamo were from back east (30+ from Tennesse alone), or Europe (20-30), and had recently arrived and had rushed to the Alamo with Travis and weren't expecting things to turn out the way they did. (which in some ways makes their sacrifice all the more heroic/tragic).

If things had turned out the way many people both inside and outside of the Alamo had expected, the Alamo would have been a footnote (or on par with Goliad - which most people outside of Texas have never heard of). Of course, if the battle hadn't turned out to delay the Mexican Army as much as it did, the war could have been much more difficult.

The majority of Hispanics that fought against Mexico, fought elsewhere (under General Houston, etc.). That's where most of my relatives fought for Texas (my ancestors came from Spain from the 1500s through the 1700s). They were already organized into units (even if they were informal units) and/or were in other parts of the state.

When the USS San Jacinto was commissioned several years ago, there was a large group of us who were invited for a small ceremony, for those who were descendents of those who fought under General Houston at the Battle of San Jacinto. I wouldn't be surprised if a good third of the group were Hispanic. I was invited by a friend to attend a memorial service that is held each year by the Alamo Defenders Descendants Association. Surprisingly (or maybe not), about half the crowd was Hispanic. One of the most somber, back-of-the-nect tingling events I have ever been to. It's held at night, and closed to the general public. The names of each Defender are read off, and as they are read, descendants stand up. Worlds really can't describe the ceremony.

[af_vet_rr]

One thing puzzles me. I once read a list (I don't have it now) of the names of the men who died defending the Alamo (some names are lost). I'm sure that a good many more than three of the names were Hispanic.

Out of the 189 or so that died at the Alamo, only about 60-80 were actually from Texas. Out of those 189, only six were actually born in Texas: Juan Abamillo, Juan A. Badillo, Carlos Espalier, Gregorio Esparza, Antonio Fuentes, and Andrés Nava. There were more Hispanics at the Alamo before the battle, but most were sent out to find reinforcements (Juan Seguin being the most well-known).

Most who fought at the Alamo were from back east (30+ from Tennesse alone), or Europe (20-30), and had recently arrived and had rushed to the Alamo with Travis and weren't expecting things to turn out the way they did. (which in some ways makes their sacrifice all the more heroic/tragic).

If things had turned out the way many people both inside and outside of the Alamo had expected, the Alamo would have been a footnote (or on par with Goliad - which most people outside of Texas have never heard of). Of course, if the battle hadn't turned out to delay the Mexican Army as much as it did, the war could have been much more difficult.

The majority of Hispanics that fought against Mexico, fought elsewhere (under General Houston, etc.). That's where most of my relatives fought for Texas (my ancestors came from Spain from the 1500s through the 1700s). They were already organized into units (even if they were informal units) and/or were in other parts of the state.

When the USS San Jacinto was commissioned several years ago, there was a large group of us who were invited for a small ceremony, for those who were descendents of those who fought under General Houston at the Battle of San Jacinto. I wouldn't be surprised if a good third of the group were Hispanic. I was invited by a friend to attend a memorial service that is held each year by the Alamo Defenders Descendants Association. Surprisingly (or maybe not), about half the crowd was Hispanic. One of the most somber, back-of-the-nect tingling events I have ever been to. It's held at night, and closed to the general public. The names of each Defender are read off, and as they are read, descendants stand up. Worlds really can't describe the ceremony.

[Nita Nupress]

He and several others attempted to found a bank to aid in the growing business in St. Louis...wonder what would have happened to American history if his bank hadn't foundered and he went to plan two, set up a colony of Americans in Texas?

Something to think about. I don't know, and I don't want to think about it. lol!

Thanks. I didn't know all that before now.

[Nita Nupress]

Words really can't describe the ceremony.

Cool. I'd give my right arm to be at one of those.

I enjoyed reading your post. Thanks.

[StrictTime]

Uh, can I ask what is at the Texas Prison Museum? I have a weak stomach ( :

[deport]

Yes you can ask if'n I can tell tell you I have no idea?.... lol .. I've never been to it although I've pasted it many times up and down I-45. Here's a link to it that will give you some ideas I'd guess. My guess is it's a history of the Texas prison system and items related to system.

http://www.txprisonmuseum.org/

Up the road a 100 miles or so is Waco the where the Texas Ranger Musuem and the Dr. Pepper Museum.. And Crawford and the Western WhiteHouse are just a little farther to the west...

Good luck

[Rightly Biased]

Go to Monument Hill in La Grange and then on down to Goliad and the Persidio La Bahia.

The persidio has been used in every major engagement up to the civil war that Texas was involved in.

[potlatch]

I stole your picture of the Alamo Meek! It's a nice one.

[Senator Pardek]

See, Pardek? It all originated from you Yankees, so now you can stop rolling your eyes (although I'll acknowledge it must be nauseating to people who don't understand it). :-)

The only thing of value Yankees gave to Texas is Alfonso Soriano.

[MeneMeneTekelUpharsin]

Mexican general Castrillon was an honorable man. He advised Santa Anna NOT to kill prisoners taken at Goliad and was ignored. He also advised Santa Anna at the Alamo NOT to kill prisoners and was again ignored. At the battle of San Jacinto, he tried to rally his contingent and did NOT turn and run. He stood his ground facing the charging Texans with his arms crossed. Just before he died, he said, "I've been in more than 40 (?) battles and I've never turned my back. I'm too old to do it now." Then he was killed.

[RebelTex]

Thanks for the ping, guys.

Remember the Alamo!!

FReegards,

       RebelTex

[mysto]

Uh, can I ask what is at the Texas Prison Museum? I have a weak stomach ( :
You can go visit Old Sparky at the prison museum...

P.S. Thanks for the ping, MeekOne... God Bless Texas!

[MeekOneGOP]

Thanks! (I stole it, too!).

:^D

[MeekOneGOP]

Ole Sparky! That's the ticket!

[March I up]

A very respectfull (& now Texan transpalnted) BTTT!!!!

"Yee-Haw!!!"

[March I up]

TY as ever, MOGOP!

[MeekOneGOP]

My pleasure. :^)

[BellStar]

Flag's battle never ends (Alamo flag)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1357420/posts?page=1

[TexasRepublic]

Remember the infamy at Goliad and the harsh lesson: Never, never, never surrender!

[Rightly Biased]

March 27th is comming up Remember Goliad!