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USA Basketball Loses, Ends Chances for Olympic Gold
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Posted on 08/27/2004 1:38:01 PM PDT by GulliverSwift

ATHENS, Greece (AP) - Bronze is the best the American men's basketball team can do, and the reason is simple: They were beaten by a better team, Argentina.

Manu Ginobili scored 29 points to lead his nation to another victory over the country that used to dominate the sport, an 89-81 win in the Olympic semifinals Friday night.

For the first time since 1988, the gold medal will not go to the Americans. And for the first time since pro players were added for the original Dream Team in 1992, the United States will not be the Olympic champion.

Argentina, with almost the same roster that made history in 2002 by becoming the first team to defeat a U.S. squad of NBA players, will compete for the gold medal against the winner of Friday's late game between Lithuania and Italy.

The Argentines were the better passers, shooters and defenders. They confronted the Americans with a mixture of man-to-man and zone defenses, and confounded them with an assortment of back picks that turned the start of the second half into a layup drill.

Argentina's players celebrated wildly when the game ended, and the crowd yelled "Ole!" U.S. coach Larry Brown walked over and gave a handshake and hug to his Argentine counterpart, Ruben Magnano, who played for Argentina against the first Dream Team in Barcelona.

A dozen years later, Magnano's team became the first to knock America out of gold medal contention since the Soviet Union did it in Seoul in 1988.

NBA commissioner David Stern attended the third loss of the Athens Games for the Americans, who entered the tournament with a 109-2 record in prior Olympics.

Their first loss to Puerto Rico was shocking for its decisiveness, and their second to Lithuania finally got the message across to the players on the young U.S. roster that the level of the competition was a whole lot better than they had imagined. The U.S. team had been playing better since, and its best effort came Thursday in a victory over previously undefeated Spain.

But just a day later, they went back to missing 3-point shots, didn't get a breakout performance from any of their NBA stars and couldn't make a sustained comeback after they fell behind by a double-digit margin.

The first half ended with Argentina ahead 43-38 after its big men outplayed the Americans and showed themselves capable of playing with as much flair as anyone.

The half's prettiest play came on the 3-on-1 break when Hugo Sconochini, one of the team's elder statesmen, tossed a nifty behind-the-back pass to Alejandro Montecchia for a high-arching layup over Richard Jefferson that gave Argentina a 42-33 lead.

The Americans shot just 36 percent in the first half and didn't hit their first 3-pointer - missing their first five - until LeBron James made one 30 seconds before halftime.

Argentina shot 54 percent overall and 11-for-22 from 3-point range, while the Americans finished just 32-for-77 (42 percent) and 3-for-11 on 3s. Stephon Marbury led the U.S. team with 18 points, and Tim Duncan had just 10 while being limited to 19 1/2 minutes because of foul trouble.

The third quarter began with Ginobili hitting a wide-open 3-pointer, Duncan picking up his third foul, Luis Scola, Ginobili and Fabricio Oberto getting inside for layups, and Marbury clanging a driving shot off the side of the backboard.

Suddenly, the Americans were down 53-40 and on the verge of having the game get away from them.

It soon did. Duncan was whistled for his fourth foul with 7:41 left in the third quarter, causing Brown to jump out of his chair and scream "NO!"

Next came a wide-open 3 from the right corner by Ginobili, and the lead was up to 16 - 56-40.

The Americans quickly got their deficit down to six, but Montecchia and Ruben Wolkowyski knocked down 3s, and Ginobili added a rare four-point play - just like the one from Lithuania's Sarunas Jasikevicius that doomed the Americans in their opening-round loss - to make it 70-57 entering the fourth quarter.

The Americans trailed 76-65 when Duncan fouled out with five minutes left for hitting Ginobili with a hip check. The U.S. team eventually went to a trap and a full-court press in an effort to climb back, but Argentina handled it with aplomb and didn't let the Americans get closer than eight.


TOPICS: Sports
KEYWORDS: olympics; usteam
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Those dunking idiots. On defense all a team has to do against them is stand close to the basket and not let the idiots in close for an easy dunk.

280 million people in this country and there weren't any shooters to be found who could join the team?

It's absurd to say that whites are not as good at basketball. They've been man-handled by whites all throughout the olympics.

1 posted on 08/27/2004 1:38:02 PM PDT by GulliverSwift
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in countries where whites arent discriminated against from a young age...they can grow up to be very good basketball players.....our system doesnt allow that however due to systematic racism.


2 posted on 08/27/2004 1:39:24 PM PDT by dennis1x
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To: GulliverSwift

The NBA guys are great athletes, but not great basketball players.


3 posted on 08/27/2004 1:41:32 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves
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It seems like in the 90s basketball became more and more black-dominated, as teams tried to get people who were like Michael Jordan.

I don't think the Celtics from the 80s would have had any trouble with these Argentinians.

NBA ball has gotten dumber and dumber, and more boring to watch.

4 posted on 08/27/2004 1:42:49 PM PDT by GulliverSwift (Dukakis + Gore = Kerry)
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And NBA ball is dumber because the college game is dumber than it used to be. And the high school game is dumber than it used to be.

Allen Iverson said it best: "Practice?"

5 posted on 08/27/2004 1:48:31 PM PDT by GSWarrior
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They were beaten by a better team, Argentina

That's the key word.

7 posted on 08/27/2004 2:04:38 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan (A gun owner voting for John Kerry is like a chicken voting for Col. Saunders. (bye bye .30-30))
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bump


8 posted on 08/27/2004 2:17:11 PM PDT by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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It is not a black/white issue. The black Lakers won more championships in the 80's than the Celtics. And like those Celtics they would destroy any team in todays league. You can call it black basketball but it is realy junk basketball, street basketball, the kind of crap you play on the playground and white kids in America play the same junk ball. It is a game that is dominated by players "making their moves" There is no offense, there is no defense. There is really nothing you can watch on NBA basketball that you can go down to the local park and see.


9 posted on 08/27/2004 2:17:47 PM PDT by azcap
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This is a black guy saying this. Otherwise he would have gotten in big, big trouble.


11 posted on 08/27/2004 2:30:52 PM PDT by GulliverSwift (Dukakis + Gore = Kerry)
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this one is just tooooo easy... so i'll just call them LOSERS and be done with it
12 posted on 08/27/2004 2:33:10 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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I don't think the Detroit Pistons would have had any problems. Simple fact is, this is a worthless team made up of great players.


13 posted on 08/27/2004 2:34:56 PM PDT by SoDak
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Too bad, so sad.

Couldn't have happened to a more deserving bunch.

14 posted on 08/27/2004 2:38:57 PM PDT by dougherty (I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free. - Michelangelo])
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Wouldn't it be great if international basketball raised the hoop to 12 feet! Then if you saw a dunk, you'd be watching an athletic feat rather than a hoop misplacement.
15 posted on 08/27/2004 2:39:32 PM PDT by paleocon patriarch (Rule One: -"The cover-up is worse than the event." Rule Two: "No one ever remembers the first rule.)
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During his 15-year tenure in the NBA, Dawkins' signature move was bulldozing to the basket and smashing the Plexiglas backboard to smithereens. He was brash, outlandish, funny, and irresistible. He called himself "Chocolate Thunder," claimed to be from the planet Lovetron, and devised names for his more awesome dunks — among the most noteworthy were In Your Face Disgrace, Cover Yo Damn Head, Sexophonic Turbo Delight, and his classic If You Ain't Groovin' Best Get Movin'-Chocolate Thunder Flyin'-Robinzine Cryin'-Teeth Shakin'-Glass Breakin'-Rump Roastin'-Bun Toastin'-Glass Still Flyin' Wham-Bam-I-Am Jam!

Dawkins was a player/coach of the local CBA team here in Sioux Falls for a while. I met the guy and he's truly funny, and big-hearted.

16 posted on 08/27/2004 2:41:50 PM PDT by SoDak
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The NBA should go to the International rules. The NBA is one on one ball and it is loosing credibility. Stars control officials in the US.


17 posted on 08/27/2004 2:42:27 PM PDT by alrea (HELP WANTED: Director, Homeland Security, State of New Jersey. Must be experienced & hot)
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They pose, they posture, they beat their chests, they lose.

I think Darryl Dawkins is on to something.


18 posted on 08/27/2004 2:43:08 PM PDT by El Gran Salseron (It translates as the Great, Big Salsa Dancer, nothing more. :-))
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Stars control officials in the US.

For economic reasons, yes they do.
And Team USA is exposed for it.

With all this stuff in the news about War Crimes & Atrocities...
{sarcasm}
Put this one down as a US Atrocitie
{/sarcasm}

19 posted on 08/27/2004 2:47:50 PM PDT by TeleStraightShooter (Sorry Kerry, you're 3 decimal places adrift: 3,000,000 not 3,000 "displaced"/murdered SE Asians)
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Nah...read it closely.

It is "society's fault" that basketball has deteriorated because there are not other opportunities for black youths to express themselves.
20 posted on 08/27/2004 3:03:35 PM PDT by sharktrager (The road to hell is paved with good intentions. And the paving contractor lives in Chappaqua.)
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