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To: bitt

What a crock of crap! There is NO DIFFERENCE between a 14th Amendment citizen and a Natural Born Citizen. If Haley, who I think is a warmongering twit, was a citizen at birth, she is eligible.

There was SCOTUS case, Wong Kim Ark, which held that the 14th Amendment was simply the embodiment of older law on natural born citizenship.

This ain’t hard. My BFF explained it in simple English:

https://birtherthinktank.wordpress.com/a-place-to-get-the-really-right-answers-about-natural-born-citizenship/


32 posted on 01/19/2024 8:40:12 AM PST by Penelope Dreadful (And there is Pansies, that's for Thoughts. +Sodomy & Abortion are NOT cornerstones of Civilization! )
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To: Penelope Dreadful
What a crock of crap! There is NO DIFFERENCE between a 14th Amendment citizen and a Natural Born Citizen.

And here is this idiot lawyer telling us what lawyers have all been taught to think based on the opinions of other, long dead lawyers.

The 14th amendment is a naturalization.

Slaves could not be natural citizens because their parents weren't citizens. They had to naturalize them, and that's what this amendment did.

If you go to the trouble of reading the debates on the 14th amendment, you will quickly learn that congress referred to the 14th amendment as a naturalization.

So what about the Indians? Why weren't Indians "citizens" after 1868? Why did it take till 1920 something before Indians became citizens?

48 posted on 01/19/2024 12:44:13 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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