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To: bitt

The Constitution does not define ‘Natural Born Citizen’, so there is not much to go on from that aspect.

The Constitution says this about citizenship:

“All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”

The phrase ‘subject to the jurisdiction thereof’ rules out citizenship for children of diplomats for example. For almost all others, anyone born on U.S. soil automatically becomes a citizen.

Can anyone cut and paste language from specific judicial decisions that rules out someone like Haley becoming President? Something in black and white?

The whole house of cards relying on vague interpretations of various court rulings stacked on top of each other don’t count for much IMO. Just post some clear court ruling that specifically rules out Haley being eligible.


31 posted on 01/19/2024 8:39:51 AM PST by Roadrunner383 (m)
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To: Roadrunner383
The Constitution does not define ‘Natural Born Citizen’, so there is not much to go on from that aspect.

Yes it does. The word "citizen" is the clue.

"Citizen", in the American usage, comes from Switzerland. The English term was "subject."

We threw that away, and started using the term "Citizen", because that is what the Swiss Republic called their people, and at the time it was the *ONLY* other Republic on the planet.

Every other nation was a monarchy, and they used the term "Subject." Only Republics used "Citizen."

So "Citizen" means the framers intended that the Vattel definition be used.

And here is a page from an 1817 Pennsylvania law book that flat out says the intent was that Vattel is used.

And it was produced from the work of the ENTIRE SUPREME COURT of PENNSYLVANIA, some of whom were involved in the Constitutional process.


49 posted on 01/19/2024 12:54:30 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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