If the war and secession were not "about" slavery, people might start to do their own research to figure out what it was actually about. Therefore the monument must go!
Posted on 12/16/2023 9:27:14 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book has been rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street and building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And that process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.
"1984," Book 2, Ch. 5.
Regards,
Take a look at a map of the Civil War Battles. Almost all of them were in the South. The South fought to repel Northern invaders after the South had declared its independence. It is as simple as that.
A grimly accurate comparison. One unique and not brought up by others. What this thug regime has done and is doing is no less than the taliban have done in shelling and destroying the Buddhas of Bamiyan.
Save the Confederate/Reconciliation monument!
The South will rise again!
Bkmk
I do have a problem with it being done illegally. But the rule of law has been dead since at least Obama. President Biden has repeatedly said that no Amendment and even no provision in general of the Constitution is absolute. I never saw one Republican or one Democrat challenge that statement in any way.
So the removal of a reconciliation monument from a cemetery that was founded to prevent reconciliation is not particularly offensive to me. It is, though, a distraction and a method to identify some people as “potential insurrectionists.” If someone wants to claim that label, it would seem there must be better causes to claim it under. Even if this monument battle is won, it’s too easy to make it into another “good people in Charlottesville” issue.
When was the decision made to remove the monument and who made that decision?
Why isn’t the House of Representatives halting the removal of the monument?
The fact that the Northern Republican controlled congress voted to pass the Corwin Amendment by a 2/3rds margin in both the House and the Senate puts the lie to the argument that the Northern leadership gave two sh*ts about slavery.
Tell the truth. You can't vote for permanent slavery, and then claim you are fighting to end slavery.
But the propaganda still circulates. As Mark Twain said, a lie gets halfway around the world before the truth gets its boots on.
The North didn't fight against slavery. It fought against freedom and independence of people who didn't want to be ruled by Washington DC anymore.
Slavery was thrown in later as a punishment to the South for opposing the DC dictatorship, but it was never intended to be abolished when armies first Marched into Virginia.
If the war and secession were not "about" slavery, people might start to do their own research to figure out what it was actually about. Therefore the monument must go!
No. Directly relevant. All you need to do to know that secession and the war were not “about” slavery is read the Corwin Amendment or Lincoln’s all important inaugural address. The North was more than happy to protect slavery effectively forever by express constitutional amendment. Slavery simply was not threatened in the US. Nobody wanting to preserve slavery would have advocated leaving when that was the only foreseeable path by which it might be abolished anytime soon.
People fought over the same things people always fight about - money. ie tariffs, trade policy, federal government spending on infrastructure, etc.
“Lincoln’s call for troops at the beginning of the war was to “suppress rebellion” not to end slavery.”
You are correct in every detail.
Still, a case of sorts can be made that after the House Divided speech Lincoln was determined, if elected president, to find a way to take up arms to overthrow constitutional slavery - since he didn’t have the votes.
Many, many style it as “Lincoln fought to free the slaves.”
I believe Lincoln did add a slave state to the Union after the Emancipation Proclamation.
You mean the country founded in 1619 to be a slaveholding site? And males are toxic and inferior to feminist women? Students hear that filthy propaganda all the time.
The teaching of American history in elementary schools is prescribed by law or by regulation in 45 states; in high schools it is prescribed by law or by regulation in 46 states.
historians.org
Yes, let the silk-stocking, Rockefeller Republicans tell us when and what to stand up for: more trade imbalance with Red China, more open border, more common-sense gun control, more trillion dollar deficients - and get rid of any association with Americus Vespucious.
Somebody said he may have been involved at one time with the slave trade. And, he may have.
No...I mean the American History I was taught in the 1960’s...
“I am all for the confederate soldiers being buried there.”
Very kind of you, but nobody asked your permission.
They are American soldiers. As American as you and me.
Thats sort of the point of the monument
Its not the first Ezekial monument to be torn down due to wokeness.
Got it. I’m 77 and remember the greatness of American exceptionalism was a widespread belief and people all over the world wished they could come to America——legally.
Such a condescending response. You must have started drinking early this afternoon.
“Such a condescending response. You must have started drinking early this afternoon.”
Projection, my misguided friend. Your condescension on the confederate soldiers somehow not being American is condescending.
The drinking part may also be projection, as you must be drunk out of your gourd to come up with such nonsense and then broadcasting your “permission” for Americans to be buried in Arlington cemetery.
You've been on FR for 7 years and are asking this question?
We must get back to the proud, patriotic America in which I grew up or it is lost
That place has been lost for over 25 years.
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