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Attack On Europe: Documenting Russian Equipment Losses During The 2022 Russian Invasion Of Ukraine
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Posted on 03/21/2023 7:39:21 AM PDT by SpeedyInTexas

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To: Czech_Occidentalist

And he tore down the wall! Hello, anybody in there? You obviously missed a decade. When Reagan’s policies defeated the Soviets, the Warsaw Pact folded and we HAD peace! We had peace on the agreed terms between Gorbachev and Baker, “not one inch east of a reunited Germany”. NATO is now one inch from the Russian motherland, a days tank ride from Moscow. Don’t give me any crap about somebody said Baker didn’t agree to that either. You can read the NATO leadership’s own words below. Other than in yours and Hillary’s Russia, Russia, Russia fantasies when did Russia ever attack us or NATO? Where in the NATO Charter is any of this sanctioned? Read my tagline. With a lot of work that is an attainable goal for you.

https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/russia-programs/2017-12-12/nato-expansion-what-gorbachev-heard-western-leaders-early


81 posted on 03/21/2023 5:24:42 PM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: hardspunned

Show us that treaty.


82 posted on 03/21/2023 5:41:14 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: SpeedyInTexas

This looks real.

Russian 5th Grader Extinguishes Russia’s Eternal Flame
https://crooksandliars.com/2023/03/russian-5th-grader-extinguishes-russias


83 posted on 03/21/2023 5:54:50 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ansel12

Heh, at the time telling blatant lies to the Soviet Union and getting away with it made sense. But don’t be shocked when they realized how they’ve been had with you warmongers now on their doorstep screaming regime change. That is how you globalist stooges have blundered us to the brink of WWIII. When the Warsaw Pact was sitting in Berlin we were never threatened enough to be this reckless. Remember the Comintern and the monolithic communist enemy? Never such a danger to us that we escalate to these levels. But for you and your big guy, we’ll fight any war, bear any burden to ensure “well SOB, the prosecutor got fired” shall not perish from the earth. What a sap.


84 posted on 03/21/2023 6:01:06 PM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: hardspunned

Instead of the treaty, we get a rambling bunch of nutty nonsense.


85 posted on 03/21/2023 6:35:32 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: hardspunned
agreed terms between Gorbachev and Baker

There was absolutely ZERO trust between the US and Russia back then, and the idea that the Soviet Union would accept some verbal statement as a defacto treaty is absolutely ridiculous, and a desperate grasp at imaginary straws. There were no such guarantees, and both the Soviet Foreign Minister and President Gorbachev confirm that fact.

When President George H.W. Bush sat down with Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev to negotiate the peaceful end of the Cold War and the reunification of Germany, former Under Secretary of State Robert Zoellick ’81 was in the room where it happened.

During the 1990 summit, Zoellick says President Gorbachev accepted the idea of German unification within the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, based on the principle that every country should freely choose its own alliances.

“I was in those meetings, and Gorbachev has [also] said there was no promise not to enlarge NATO,” Zoellick recalls. Soviet Foreign Minister, Eduard Shevardnadze, later president of Georgia, concurred, he says. Nor does the treaty on Germany’s unification include a limit on NATO enlargement. Those facts have undermined one of Russian President Vladimir Putin’s justifications for invading Ukraine — that the United States had agreed that former Warsaw Pact nations would never become part of the North Atlantic security alliance.

‘There was no promise not to enlarge NATO’

“The topic of ‘NATO expansion’ was not discussed at all, and it wasn’t brought up in those years." - Mikhail Gorbachev

So, it's not in the treaty, and both US and Russian negotiators say it wasn't negotiated. The US, Germany and Russia signed an agreement that allowed Germany to reunify as a member of NATO, but no NATO troops would be stationed in the territory of the former East Germany, period. The "not one inch east" applied to East Germany, and NATO has obeyed that treaty.

86 posted on 03/21/2023 6:45:43 PM PDT by ETCM (“There is no security, no safety, in the appeasement of evil.” — Ronald Reagan)
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https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/03/ukraine-sitrep-avdiivka.html#more

Bakhmut is encircled. All roads in and out of it are under Russian artillery fire.

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Meanwhile other encirclement has taken place in Avdiivka

Avdiivka is strongly fortified. Its coke plant is a strong-point. The Ukrainian army used the city to lob artillery into Donetsk city. But attempts to seize it were largely unsuccessful. Two week ago the situation suddenly changed. The Russian airforce started to bomb Avdiivka with heavy glide bombs. At the same time an operations was launched to envelope the city from two directions.

An east to west move north of Avdiivka cut the rail access to the city. Russian forces crossed the railroad and moved further west. Fighting is currently ongoing in Berdychi. South of Berdychi is Orlovka, a road crossing point (O0542, C015801, C015802) that is for now the only real supply route left for Avdiivka.

In the southwest of Avdiivka the Russian forces moved northward. They are currently trying to capture Siverne. The first progress there was stopped when on March 12 the Ukrainian 36th Marine Brigade was placed in the area.

Armed reconnaissance has also taken place into the southwest area of Avdiivka city which is made up of high rises.

The distance between the Russian positions in the southwest and in the northwest of Avdiivka is 8 kilometer (5 miles). That is sufficiently narrow for Russian artillery to interdict road traffic that goes through the area in between.

The landscape around Avdiivka is mostly featureless. There are a few slag hills that rise about 50 meter above their surrounding flatland. But they can be easily covered by artillery and are thus not really helpful for either side.

This is now the second Ukrainian held area on the Donetsk front that is in operational encirclement. In both areas the Russian follow Sun Tzu's advice to not completely close off an encirclement but to leave a route out. This prevents fanatical defenses by encircled troops or it may even lead the enemy to push more forces into a hopeless position.

If the Ukrainian military had plans to relieve Bakhmut with a counterattack it now has to think of the additional problem that the encirclement of Avdiivka brings. Should it start there? Should it split the forces it had accumulated and planned to use for the counterattack in Bakhmut and start a parallel one in Avdiivka? Should it give up on one or both cities? Those are difficult decisions.

I find it likely that the Russian attacks on Bakhmut were halted after the Avdiivka development succeeded to give the Ukraine military enough time to make an error.

87 posted on 03/21/2023 7:12:51 PM PDT by Kazan
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@visegrad24 11h

Today, U.S. established its first permanent military garrison in one of the countries that used to be behind the Iron Curtain.

Camp Kosciuszko was inaugurated in Poznan, as the Area Support Group Poland (ASG-P) was transformed into the Army Garrison Poland (USAG-P).


88 posted on 03/21/2023 7:47:22 PM PDT by BeauBo
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To: ansel12

“Every day this proxy battle in Ukraine continues, we risk global war,” President Trump said. There must also be a complete commitment to dismantling the entire globalist neo-con establishment that is perpetually dragging us into endless wars, pretending to fight for freedom and democracy abroad, while they turn us into a third-world country and a third-world dictatorship right here at home. The State Department, the defense bureaucracy, the intelligence services, and all the rest need to be completely overhauled and reconstituted to fire the Deep Staters and put America First.”

More rambling nutty nonsense? Trump calls you big brave (sitting at home) warmongers out, same as I do. You are voting for the big guy, aren’t you? No Trump or RdS Putin stooges for you. Just think, if we can bring MAGA back your cowardly ass will have to go save stiletto heels yourself. I’m tired of your pathetic slanders. In the future I’ll just respond with quotes from patriots like Trump or Paul, you can get your kicks denouncing Trump, MAGA and other known non globalist goons. Who are you voting, Ace? You’re such coward, you won’t admit it. Globalist stooge gotta globalist stooge.


89 posted on 03/22/2023 4:30:30 AM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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More of your rambling nonsense, all because you were asked to show the treaty you tried to claim to justify your warmongering.


90 posted on 03/22/2023 4:41:48 AM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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Is today the big day? Will the Soros goon in NYC take that Putin stooge you so detest out permanently? What a coward, refuses to tell us who he’s voting for. You’re in luck, even if VegPres ducks out, the replacement Obama/Soros choose will be just as big a warmonger as you. Who are you voting for? Oh yeah, what about that policy of Trump’s? Did you read his statement about you neocon warmongers? Makes your cowardly blood boil, doesn’t it.


91 posted on 03/22/2023 4:52:42 AM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: ETCM

The internet raving nut-cases don’t care, they just want to rage and spew.


92 posted on 03/22/2023 4:57:02 AM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: SpeedyInTexas; PIF

Russia now sending T-54s to fight in Ukraine. Too funny.


93 posted on 03/22/2023 7:43:22 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
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1946-1981; 100mm main gun; 30mm armor turret roof, 20 mm hull lower sides & bottom.

The T-54/55 tanks are mechanically simple and robust. They are very simple to operate compared to Western tanks, and do not require a high level of training or education in their crewmen. The T-54/55 is a relatively small main battle tank, presenting a smaller target for its opponents to hit.

The tanks have good mobility thanks to their relatively light weight (which permits easy transport by rail or flatbed truck and allows crossing of lighter bridges), wide tracks (which give lower ground pressure and hence good mobility on soft ground), a good cold-weather start-up system and a snorkel that allows river crossings.

NATO countered with the US M48 Patton tank and the British Centurion tank.

94 posted on 03/22/2023 8:10:10 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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Russia now sending T-54s to fight in Ukraine. Too funny.

The T-54 is a Soviet medium tank. The first prototype was constructed at the end of 1944. After successful trials in 1945–1947 the T-54 mod. 1947 was adopted for service.

Here's a pic:

Main armament is the D-10, a Soviet 100 mm tank gun developed in late World War II.

Logistics will be a pain.

95 posted on 03/22/2023 8:21:43 AM PDT by FtrPilot
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“Russia now sending T-54s to fight in Ukraine. Too funny.”

That shows how deficient Russian tank production and refurbishment programs have been - and how effective this war has been in demilitarizing Russia.

Rope-a-dope.

Keep them swinging in the Ukraine, until they are all punched out. They are far down that road already.

When their Artillery starts sputtering out, the end will be near.


96 posted on 03/22/2023 8:37:32 AM PDT by BeauBo
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The Russians plan on burying Ukraine in an avalanche of sewage. DU shells will slice up these antique tanks in a cost efficient manner and without the need for advanced weapons. That’s why the Putinoids are spinning furiously to stop deployment of DU ammo. Putin is holding on by a thread in Ukraine and only because Brandon continues the slow walking of aid to Kyiv.


97 posted on 03/22/2023 11:38:53 AM PDT by lodi90
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Bring on the T-34s!


98 posted on 03/22/2023 11:47:49 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: hardspunned

From our perspective in Central and Eastern Europe there isn’t much difference between Russian Communism and Russian Fascism (Putin’s regime). Russia still wants to enslave its neighbors. We want to belong to the West. We don’t want to belong to the so-called Russian world (which we in Central Europe have never belonged to except for about 40 years after WWII), full of poverty and despotism.

Why do Central- and Eastern European countries want to be or become NATO members? Because Russia threatens us. If Russia left us alone, it would be different. Russia pushed us into NATO, not the “evil” US.

The fall of Communism in Russia was only formal. There was no de-communization. The Russians still celebrate their Commie criminals: Lenin, Stalin and others. They still fly Commie Flags.


99 posted on 03/24/2023 11:14:34 AM PDT by Czech_Occidentalist
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