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Posted on 03/01/2023 7:34:11 AM PST by shadowlands1960
If the cause of Ukraine is righteous, there is no reason to chill debate.
It’s not exactly a sign of a healthy democratic discourse that it’s virtually impossible to ask a critical question about the United States’ role in the Ukraine-Russia conflict without being smeared as a Putin apologist or an “isolationist.”
We’ve been bombarded with bromides about a civilizational struggle that pits the forces of autocracy and liberalism against each other. “It’s not just about freedom in Ukraine,” Biden tells us. “It’s about freedom of democracy at large.”
Yet Ukraine — which, before the war, regularly slotted in somewhere beneath Burma, Mexico, and Hungary on those silly “democracy matrixes” left-wingers used to love — isn’t any kind of liberal democracy. Maybe one day it will be. Today Ukraine still shutters churches and restricts the free press. Maybe you believe those are justifiable actions during wartime, but under no definition are they liberal. Ukraine has never been a functioning “democracy.” Its people defend its borders and sovereignty in the face of a powerful expansionist aggressor. That’s good enough.
But a person is capable of rooting for Vladimir Putin to be embarrassed, beaten, and weakened, without accepting the historical revisionism and a highly idealized version of Ukraine. A person is fully capable of rooting for Putin to be embarrassed, beaten, and weakened, and also asking questions about where this is all headed.
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Ukraine is a corrupt kleptocracy - merely Russia writ small.
Zelnskeyy is going to finish this thing a multi-billionaire and retire to Europe when the shooting finishes - no matter who wins.
Heh... you isolated the phrase that prompted me to post this...
Questioning the decisions of the Biden administration does not make one a Russian apologist.
Insisting that Russia has a right to conquer any country it wants to does make one a Russian apologist.
“Ukraine is a corrupt kleptocracy - merely Russia writ small.”
And yet they don’t invade their neighbors to try and conquer them, and they don’t threaten the rest of the world with nuclear weapons in an attempt to blackmail them into submission. So they’re still the “good guys” in this conflict any way you slice it.
They colluded with leftwing radical holdovers from the Obama administration to unseat an elected American President. They were installed in a ‘color revolution’ that denied their ethnic Russian citizens of their rights and then they launched a terror bombing campaign against those citizens using literal Nazi militias.
I judge people by the company they keep.
They colluded with leftwing radical holdovers from the Obama administration to unseat an elected American President. They were installed in a ‘color revolution’ that denied their ethnic Russian citizens of their rights and then they launched a terror bombing campaign against those citizens using literal Nazi militias.
I judge people by the company they keep.
Indeed not only Biden cash but selling arms we sent to world bidders but the fearless leaders at the pentagon say it isn’t so but they don’t see them in the Ukraine corrupt kleptocracy Inc.
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“Insisting that Russia has a right to conquer any country it wants to does make one a Russian apologist.”
Bingo.
“They colluded with leftwing radical holdovers from the Obama administration to unseat an elected American President.”
Perhaps some of them did, but Russia has done much worse.
“They were installed in a ‘color revolution’ that denied their ethnic Russian citizens of their rights and then they launched a terror bombing campaign against those citizens using literal Nazi militias.”
Mostly false, but even if it were true, Russia has still done much worse.
I judge people by the company they keep.
Gotcha. Except when Trump donates $100k to the Clinton foundation, obviously.
Questioning Biden’s Ukraine Policy Doesn’t Make You An ‘Isolationist’ But You Are An Isolationist.
The USSR and Russia have been funding the America hating left for many, many decades. Probably a century. Putin’s apologists couldn’t care less. They’re still butthurt over 2020 election and delusionally fantasize that Putin to win for them.
Trump was once a Democrat... so was I.
Interestingly, Reagan never supported mass murdering Kremlin filth. When he was a Democrat or as leader of the Reagan revolution.
Aw, what’s in a name?
“They” are welcome to call me an “isolationist”.
And I’ll feel free to continue to call THEM grifting, insane, spendthrift, hidden-agenda murdering warmongers.
Fair is fair.
He did negotiate with them though and more than once.
Reagan negotiated them out of existence, and he built up the war power to do it.
Reagan muscled Russia.
Oh BS. The Ukraine is an enemy nation that aided the conspiracy to install Biden. The US owes them nothing.
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