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Doctors Suing Food And Drug Administration Over Ivermectin
Zubu Brothers ^ | 6-10-2022 | Alice Giordano via The Epoch Times

Posted on 06/10/2022 4:32:53 PM PDT by blam

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To: Honest Nigerian

Dishonest Nigerian.

You wove a cacophony of buzzword into your incoherent response and attack. No I think ivermectin is weakly useful if at all. Please see also that I had wide access to monoclonals. Because of the equivocal experience with ivermectin combines with data that was at best marginal instead of rx this medication I went right to the superior treatment that has data behind it demonstrating superiority. I am aware that other parts of the country did not have access to what I had which is awful.

I am glad the lawsuit was brought because as I said I support the autonomous practice of a physician including myself and understand who and what has prescriptive authority.

As for the vaccines. Different story. I have not boosted despite your bizarre statement as I don’t think it’s necessary given the normal evolution of a pandemic to a contagious but not serious course of disease. As I have said many times. It’s over and this was even more evidenced by the termination of CoVId testing to enter the country.

As for safe and effective I have offered direct proof that those vaccinated during delta survived breakthrough infections while the vast majority is deaths occurred in the unvaccinated. Ask anyone who treated the disease a year ago and what we faced

Your problem quite frankly is you have no idea what you are talking about and double down on not understanding context. Many of us can see the data for what it is and evaluate it to a proper conclusion.

And I find it funny that you must have a jostle compliance with your position otherwise you resort to personal attacks. A sign of a tyrant. So be it. You are what you are. Often wrong and never in doubt.

Good day.


41 posted on 06/10/2022 8:19:58 PM PDT by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will. )
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To: Jane Long; bagster

I have complies with your request Jane to not respond to you. As you are clearly using bagster to circumvent my reciprocal request I politely ask both of you to no longer respond to my posts.

Thank you for your kindness and equality of testament as you also request.

A pleasant evening to both.


42 posted on 06/10/2022 8:21:48 PM PDT by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will. )
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To: Jim Noble

Thanks for clarifying. That was the thrust of my question. What is the tort against the FDA. I agree the state boards are the one who should be sued.


43 posted on 06/10/2022 8:23:07 PM PDT by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will. )
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To: ckilmer
No drug works all of the time. Ivermectin has been successful in more cases than has the mRNA injection...how's that for a hypothesis?
44 posted on 06/10/2022 8:32:35 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: vetvetdoug

I say that’s a great hypothesis.

Much more accurate than any of the typical FRoctor blather.


45 posted on 06/10/2022 8:36:25 PM PDT by Jane Long (What we were told was a “conspiracy theory” in 2020 is now fact. 🙏🏻 Ps 33:12)
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To: Jane Long
Gassie is spazzing again.

#TheGuiltBurns


48 posted on 06/10/2022 9:11:11 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: gas_dr

Yes, additional details about the suit would be good


50 posted on 06/10/2022 11:40:05 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Jim Noble

Aren’t the state boards using the FDA as cover?


51 posted on 06/10/2022 11:44:57 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Cv19 vaccines are Phase 2 of the CCP bioweapon)
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To: gas_dr

“Yes I was absolutely diagnosing and treating covid patients. Additionally I had access to monoclonals on demand. So once I saw several ivermectin failures I just went right to monoclonals and had much better success.”

Liar.

I know some of the MDs who use IVM and HCQ. And frontline nurses. I have provided elements of the FLCCC protocols to friends and they have recovered within a day or two. There’s no rocket science with this kind of viral treatment, provided it is done early. A lay person can help for about $40. I have helped, and will continue to do so. We put you trained MD monkeys to shame just by printing out the I-mask protocol and dropping a box of supplements on a sick persons door step. One friend I helped was feeling better within 2 hours. And back at work within 3 days. Before I helped her she described a feeling of being hit by a freight train. Confirmed delta variant. I also helped her get her religious exemption at her hospital (which was approved). Meanwhile all the nurses I know are seeing PE’s and sudden aggressive cancer in their LTC patients. All of them vaxxed.


52 posted on 06/10/2022 11:55:19 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Cv19 vaccines are Phase 2 of the CCP bioweapon)
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To: SecAmndmt; Jane Long; bagster; gas_dr; ransomnote

I love the blood sport, it’s fun... but we should give consideration to experience & POVs without making it personal. And there’s no monopoly on experience.

We’ve seemed to lose our better nature at the expense of insights.

I’m being selfish by asking for cooperation. I want information. I don’t care if it’s fantasy or fact. The volume of data will eventually sort itself out.

BTW, in gas’ defense, he’s previously provided details about the advantages and availability of monoclonals — an alternative to the vax. That’s a good thing.


53 posted on 06/11/2022 12:38:26 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: SecAmndmt

The FDA and State Medical Boards have no legal or regulatory relationship.


54 posted on 06/11/2022 2:36:51 AM PDT by Jim Noble (I’ve stumbled on the side of twelve misty mountains)
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To: SecAmndmt
Aren’t the state boards using the FDA as cover?

Absolutely. To absolve the FDA because of 'state boards', like our friendly vax_dr does, is to not understand the nature of socialism and 'the deep state' and is completely naive.

Let us not be children.


55 posted on 06/11/2022 4:25:21 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: Gene Eric
but we should give consideration to experience & POVs without making it personal. And there’s no monopoly on experience. We’ve seemed to lose our better nature at the expense of insights.

Sometimes experience can blind a man, make him arrogant, and close his mind. This is what has happened to gassie, who refuses to see the truth that is right there in front of him and has given him his 'god complex'.

He deserves every inch of the pain for his arrogance, and then some. His type of Fauci-like attitude and behavior has cost lives.

Don't go gettin' soft on us, Mister Eric.


56 posted on 06/11/2022 4:30:31 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: Cobra64

The clot shots wouldn’t have been approved if effective alternate treatments were already available. That’s the reason Ivermectin & HCQ were banned.


57 posted on 06/11/2022 4:42:44 AM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: ViLaLuz
The clot shots wouldn’t have been approved if effective alternate treatments were already available. That’s the reason Ivermectin & HCQ were banned.

THIS is he real reason, good post. It’s official policy not to approve experimental vaccines when therapies exist, so all existing therapies were ruled ineffective, including HCQ.

58 posted on 06/11/2022 4:46:34 AM PDT by Golden Eagle ( What's in YOUR injection? )
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To: bagster

Exactly.

Arrogance, or....incompetence?

Telling, for sure. ;-)


59 posted on 06/11/2022 8:17:28 AM PDT by Jane Long (What we were told was a “conspiracy theory” in 2020 is now fact. 🙏🏻 Ps 33:12)
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To: Jane Long
Arrogance, or....incompetence?

The two CAN coexist.


60 posted on 06/11/2022 11:01:37 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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