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To: adorno
Would you have preferred that Russia had taken all of Ukraine by now?

Ukraine has been a cancer on the American body politic for nearly 20 years. It truly metastacized under Trump. The fake Steele Dossier, impeachment, Hunter Biden's corruption, Mueller, the Vindmans, etc.. all had roots in Ukraine.

If someone, anyone will exercise this deep-state cancer on our republic, then YES - please take the whole f***ing country of Ukraine.

7 posted on 05/12/2022 10:35:50 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: PGR88

So because you are butthurt about the results of a domestic election, you would condemn an entire nation of innocent people to genocide?


12 posted on 05/12/2022 10:51:59 AM PDT by lump in the melting pot
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To: PGR88

Odd compilation of various frauds under the “Ukraine” banner - you sound like the Left’s “systemic racism” purveyors.

The reality is - Ukraine is no more corrupt (and honestly - is significantly less so) than Russia.

The truth is - Ukraine was muscling in on some of Russia’s prime cash endeavors and Putin can’t stand it. Add that to Putin’s declining health and longstanding vision of a restoration of the Soviet Union... and you have the motive for this war.

And here’s the kicker (having been there, having met many Ukrainians across a wide swath of geography, demographics, and even faiths) - the people there are far more offended by corruption than Americans. Sadly, between Russian meddling (which makes US/CIA meddling look sophomoric) and the horrible condition the nation was left in (international organizations invented a new term - “4th World” - to describe the former Soviet block nations after they declared independence from Russia) and desperately seeking an avenue to develop economically - rooting out corruption and Russian influences has proven a mess.


15 posted on 05/12/2022 11:05:33 AM PDT by TheBattman (Democrats-Progressives-Marxists-Socialists - redundant labels.)
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To: PGR88
Ukraine has been a cancer on the American body politic for nearly 20 years. It truly metastacized under Trump. The fake Steele Dossier, impeachment, Hunter Biden's corruption, Mueller, the Vindmans, etc.. all had roots in Ukraine.

Corruption exists in every country, including the U.S., from where the corrupt politicians took advantage of a third-world country. If not for the corrupt politicians in our country, who demanded that Ukraine give kickbacks from the U.S. assistance, then, you would have very little to complain about.

In any case, the vast majority of Ukrainians have nothing to do with the corruption, and they don't deserve the vilification coming from people like you. And, Russia still had no right to invade, even if corruption existed in Ukraine.

Perhaps if we took care of our corrupt politicians before they had a chance to corrupt others, Ukraine would have been better off, and Russia would have been taking on a stronger opponent.

Nevertheless, as witnessed by what Finland just did this week, Russia is the aggressor and beating them back is of the utmost importance, not only for the Ukrainian people, but for the U.S. and the world.
35 posted on 05/12/2022 12:57:23 PM PDT by adorno
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