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The Turn
Tablet Magazine ^ | 12-7-21 | LIEL LEIBOVITZ

Posted on 04/13/2022 6:47:47 PM PDT by DeweyCA

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It is interesting to hear what this NYU prof thought of himself while he was a leftist. It confirms all of the stereotypes of them thinking that they are the saviors of the world and that we are the ignorant dregs of society. I am glad that he has "seen the light" and that he has the courage to tell about it. If only 50 million more American leftists would awaken to reality like he has done.
1 posted on 04/13/2022 6:47:47 PM PDT by DeweyCA
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To: DeweyCA

The self hating Jews will shun him.


2 posted on 04/13/2022 6:54:16 PM PDT by dynachrome ("I will not be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: DeweyCA

Its tough enough for someone to finally figure out he was wrong.

Much more difficult for him to figure out that the rubes he hates were right.


3 posted on 04/13/2022 6:55:20 PM PDT by marron
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To: DeweyCA

“Sometimes, these measures had unintended consequences (see under: Stalin, Josef),”

No way this is legit.

Leftists worship at the altar of Joseph Stalin.


4 posted on 04/13/2022 6:55:53 PM PDT by Reddy ( B.O. stinks)
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To: DeweyCA

He will find no home in the Republican party, the cheaper and shabbier “Me-to” dictators.


5 posted on 04/13/2022 6:57:29 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus (Jesus, Rex Universalis)
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To: DeweyCA

Would be interesting to hear him and David Horowitz talk about their turn from the left.


6 posted on 04/13/2022 7:00:23 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: DeweyCA

What a waste of lifetime effort.


7 posted on 04/13/2022 7:01:25 PM PDT by drSteve78 (Second suis Deplorable STILL)
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To: DeweyCA

It’s been years now, but I still remember the time a dear friend and mentor took me to lunch and warned me, sternly and without any of the warmth you’d extend to someone you truly loved, to watch what I said about Israel.


A blind man could have seen that one coming a mile away.


8 posted on 04/13/2022 7:08:03 PM PDT by rbg81
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To: DeweyCA

Nice way to describe his journey.

I think as he puts it, many have a “turn” in their life. I did.


9 posted on 04/13/2022 7:12:42 PM PDT by Red6
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To: DeweyCA

Wikipedia tells us that Liel Leibovitz is “an Israeli journalist, author, media critic and video game scholar.”

However, at 46 he could still make something of himself.


10 posted on 04/13/2022 7:28:25 PM PDT by Buttons12 ( )
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To: dynachrome
It appears that we have yet another Jewish intellectual turning away from fascism as I noted in a reply to the article about David Mamet a few replies from here:

https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4054865/posts?page=7#7


11 posted on 04/13/2022 7:28:34 PM PDT by nathanbedford (Attack, repeat, attack! - Bull Halsey)
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To: Red6

I think as he puts it, many have a “turn” in their life. I did.
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Me too. Only a lot earlier. I was always a right wing conservative and a social liberal. That is until the day I looked back at the wreckage I had left in my wake thru life. If the left was horribly wrong about the ‘free love’ stuff, what else were they wrong about. I woke up, or did the turn, on social liberalism. They were wrong won everything.

You don’t help people by giving them things. You help them by showing them how to get things themselves.

Etc.


12 posted on 04/13/2022 7:32:01 PM PDT by dirtymac ( Now Is The Time For All Good Men To ComeTo The Aid Of Their Country! NOW)
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Growing up in very liberal Germany (USAF brat), with liberal friends, liberal TV, liberal teachers, going to a liberal university there and then here... I thought I was liberal, and maybe I was in a classical sense (maximize liberty). But I somehow knew even back then I didn’t fit in and at 18 I bought a gun and motorcycle with everyone thinking I was crazy...

But I guess the realization that I wasn’t what I thought I was came in stages. I got married, I started working and paying taxes, had children, I traveled the world (not as a tourist), and I started managing people. By the time I was 27-29 I was on the completely other side of the spectrum.

Now I have to listen to my daughter teach me about all these great leftist ideas she gets her head filled with in college and the media (all the same crap just with new packaging). Yippie, I hope in 10 years she’ll grow up.

But those people that live from the government hand, with housing, health care, food cards, public transit, free phones... They are on a plantation, and just like most slaves could have realistically escaped but never dared, these people are in a cage constructed for them which few ever escape.


13 posted on 04/13/2022 8:03:32 PM PDT by Red6
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“Would be interesting to hear him and David Horowitz talk about their turn from the left.”

Yes, but he has a way to go before he becomes a rabid right winger like Horowitz.


14 posted on 04/13/2022 9:09:12 PM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: dirtymac

“You don’t help people by giving them things. You help them by showing them how to get things themselves.”

But the left doesn’t give them their things, they steal them from you at gunpoint, keep a good chunk of it and then distribute the crumbs.


15 posted on 04/13/2022 9:13:36 PM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: DeweyCA

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16 posted on 04/13/2022 10:05:12 PM PDT by sauropod (So may we start? It's time to start.)
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"...rabid right winger..." Well you certainly have not made The Turn.
17 posted on 04/13/2022 10:11:23 PM PDT by A strike ("Well, here's another fine mess you've gotten us into.")
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Ah, yes The Turn. It has a history all its own. First for me and I think still the best exposition on this wrenching change is Whittaker Chambers' Witness. If the author hasn't read it he might find a good deal of comfort there, because Chambers had no real reason other than conscience to leave a comfortable existence similar to the author's to do what he did.

Paul Hollanders' The End Of Commitment is a study of people both in and out of the intellectual life who faced a similar change. For one Russian general it was simply a walk under a prison window and hearing the screams. Highly recommended.

18 posted on 04/13/2022 10:34:25 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: DeweyCA

He does have some points. The Left-Right labels do not mean what they used to and don’t really fit any more. Nor does the word “liberal” in its 20th century American sense.

Progressives aka the Wokeratti are the most illiberal people you could meet. They are for explicit racism. They are for censorship. They are for the 3 letter agencies and they are for foreign wars. They are against bodily autonomy. They are anti choice. They are against women’s rights, and they especially HATE the working class.

I can remember a lot of my Left leaning teachers growing up who were against every single last thing listed above that the current Woke movement is for. I didn’t agree with liberals of a generation ago about everything but there were plenty of things - such as all of the above - that I did agree with them about.


19 posted on 04/14/2022 3:06:25 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: Red6

I confess I supported the 2nd Iraq war and used to be almost reflexively in favor of military intervention abroad.

I also used to be in favor of free trade deals.

I also used to reflexively favor the FBI and the CIA and various government police/security agencies as well as the Pentagon.

I was also more in favor of a lighter regulatory touch from the government on corporations.

Of course this was before stupid war after stupid war after stupid war followed by titanically wasteful “nation building” efforts that dragged on for decades. This was before I saw the devastation outsourcing would cause to entire communities and how much this would both weaken national security and fuel the rise of the CCP. This was before a bunch of Big Tech monopolies acting as a cartel would crush free speech and use their monopoly power to crush any attempts to compete with them a la Google/Apple/Amazon/Microsoft/Twitter ganging up to crush Parler.

This was before the FBI and the CIA and other government agencies would show themselves to be massively politically corrupt to the point that we now have actual political prisoners and before the 3 letter agencies would be used to threaten ordinary Americans for doing things like objecting to sexual predators employed as public school teachers grooming their kids in school. This was before the Pentagon adopted the worst policies of the progressive far Left and even the chairman of the joint chiefs took to making overtly racist remarks in congressional testimony.

Now that I’ve seen those things, I’ve changed my mind about several issues.


20 posted on 04/14/2022 3:15:31 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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