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Trouble in Paradise: Putin Arrests Senior FSB Officers Over Ukraine Fiasco
Red State ^ | 03/12/2022 | Streiff

Posted on 03/12/2022 7:14:18 PM PST by SeekAndFind

There are reports in British papers that Russian President Vladimir Putin has ordered the arrest of at least two senior officers in the Russian Federal Security Service or FSB. The FSB is the successor to the KGB but without the overseas portfolio. However, it does operate within the now-independent states that comprised the former Soviet Union, which by Russian law (lolol) is forbidden territory to the foreign intelligence service or SVR.

A Russian spy chief is said to have been placed under house arrest in a sign that President Putin is seeking to blame the security services for the stalled invasion of Ukraine.

Sergey Beseda, head of the FSB’s foreign intelligence branch, was arrested with Anatoly Bolyukh, his deputy, according to a leading expert on the Russian security services.

Andrei Soldatov, who is co-founder and editor of Agentura, an investigative website that monitors the FSB and other agencies, said that sources from within FSB had confirmed the detention of both men.

Vladimir Osechkin, an exiled Russian human rights activist, also confirmed the arrests. He added that FSB officers had carried out searches at more than 20 addresses around Moscow of colleagues suspected of being in contact with journalists.

“The formal basis for conducting these searches is the accusation of the embezzlement of funds earmarked for subversive activities in Ukraine,” Osechkin said. “The real reason is unreliable, incomplete and partially false information about the political situation in Ukraine.”

The spy chief’s defenestration attests to Putin’s growing fury towards the intelligence services, which he believes provided false information over the situation in Ukraine, Soldatov said. “Putin has finally understood that he was misled,” Soldatov told The Times.

Beseda, 68, heads the FSB’s Fifth Service, which is responsible for intelligence-gathering in Ukraine.

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Bolyukh, 66, is head of the Department of Operative Information, which is a part of the Fifth Service.

The article goes on to note that the reason for the arrest, according to Russian sources, was that the intel before the invasion was “simply not right, which is part of the reason as to why things have gone so badly for Russia.” The article also notes that sources say that if Putin is this angry at the FSB that major leadership changes are underway. The story runs in tandem with another story from last week alleging that Putin has fired at least eight generals involved in the Ukraine fiasco (note the story originates in Ukraine, which doesn’t make it wrong, it is just a warning to beware).

Interestingly, the article doesn’t contend that the intelligence gathered by the FSB was wrong but that it was massaged along the way to provide Putin with the answer he wanted to hear.

However, he added: “The problem is that it is too risky for superiors to tell Putin what he doesn’t want to hear, so they tailor their information. The tailoring probably takes place somewhere between the rank of colonel and general in the FSB. We can’t rule out the fact that the intelligence they gathered on the ground was in fact very good.”

Last weekend an alleged report written by an FSB officer emerged. The author complained about being overworked and made a scapegoat for the failings of the Russian advance. They added: “I can’t tell you what led those in charge to decide to proceed with the operation but now they are methodically throwing us to the lions. We are being scolded for our analysis.”

In the old Soviet Union, there were “three pillars” or power hierarchies: the Party, the Army, and the KGB. The key to leadership was playing those hierarchies off against one another while keeping them from feeling threatened. Within each of those “pillars,” there were competing centers of power that were constantly jostling for position, which largely prevented unified political action by the entire “pillar.” Because any two of the hierarchies working in consonance could crush the third, it was essential to keep bureaucratic alliances from forming that would undermine the stability of the state.

At a minimum, the arrest of the top two FSB officers with responsibility for the Ukraine portfolio indicates that things are not going well in Ukraine. Losing more than 3,000 dead soldiers is not part of some master strategery conducted by Vladimir Putin. If the story of the fired generals is correct, then it is clear that the Ukraine invasion has reached the soup-sandwich stage of being f***ed up. The big question is, how will the FSB and Army react to being scapegoated for an invasion they probably weren’t crazy about getting involved in? Will those organizations standby and watch their reputations trashed?

There is an old joke in project management about the stages of any big, can’t-fail project. They are a) Unbounded Enthusiasm, b) Total Disillusionment, c) Panic, hysteria and overtime, d) Frantic Search for the guilty, e) Punishment of the innocent, and f) Reward for the uninvolved.

We seem to have reached stage d). Unless things get markedly better, the people taking over in FSB will experience e). What happens after that is anyone’s guess.



TOPICS: Government; Military/Veterans; Society
KEYWORDS: anatolybolyukh; andreisoldatov; fsb; putin; readingputinsmind; redstate; russia; searchandfind; sergeybeseda; streiff; streiffisaclown; tedstate; telepathy; ukraine; vladimirosechkin; vladimirputin

1 posted on 03/12/2022 7:14:18 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

“Putin’s growing fury towards the intelligence services, which he believes provided false information....”

Welcome to Trump’s world....


2 posted on 03/12/2022 7:17:02 PM PST by Paladin2 (She's retarted, Jim.)
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To: Paladin2

Yeah, zero evidence of any of this. “Confirmed by a human rights activist”.

Why do this stuff? Just report what the satellite photos show from the Donbas.


3 posted on 03/12/2022 7:23:14 PM PST by Owen
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To: SeekAndFind

“There are reports in British papers”, “the article”

Absolutely, run with this. Is this some back door vanity?

How about, “There are reports in Guatemalan papers stating Russian soldiers are cyborgs”, “the article stated they were the new T1000 variety”?


4 posted on 03/12/2022 7:26:31 PM PST by hardspunned (former GOP globalist stooge)
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To: SeekAndFind

Putin’s holding some of the Russian Deep State accountable ... think of all the corrupt unaccountable deep state at the DOJ, FBI, CDC, NIH, FDA, Military, Intelligence services, etc. that are never held accountable.


5 posted on 03/12/2022 7:28:54 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (When Satan craps another demon possessed Progressive is born.)
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To: SeekAndFind
The cashiered officials may be lucky if they escape with their lives. Stalin would have had them shot in the basement of the Lubyanka Prison.

In 2003, the United States and allied military conquered Iraq with 250,000 troops, including 70,000 Kurdish fighters, and suffered 192 deaths. The overall operation took about two months. The Russians have about 200,000 soldiers committed to the Ukrainian invasion, which is about three weeks old. However, the Iraqi military, despite superior numbers, did not put up as much of a fight as are the Ukrainians. Assuming the 3,000 killed number is correct, the Russian operation is stumbling in comparison with the American and allied effort in Iraq.

6 posted on 03/12/2022 7:32:10 PM PST by Wallace T.
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To: SeekAndFind

Why FSB? They are the less competent intelligence agency, and they aren’t military intelligence. Maybe Putin is afraid of the GRU?


7 posted on 03/12/2022 7:38:53 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: RetiredTexasVet

Wake up. Putin is wirking for the deep state. That’s his whole job.


8 posted on 03/12/2022 7:40:24 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: SeekAndFind

He said, she said stuff. Howz bout some meat and potatoes with those Russkie ‘sauces’


9 posted on 03/12/2022 7:42:34 PM PST by Long Jon No Silver
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To: Owen

Yeah, zero evidence of any of this. “Confirmed by a human rights activist”.

Why do this stuff? Just report what the satellite photos show from the Donbas.


You mean other than the 3 Russian generals going home in bags? There’s plenty of evidence. You just don’t want to see it.


10 posted on 03/12/2022 7:51:01 PM PST by lodi90
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To: SeekAndFind
Someone told Putin that Ukrainians are "little Russians", Article by Vladimir Putin ”On the Historical Unity of Russians and Ukrainians“
...The final outcome was sealed by the Treaty of Perpetual Peace in 1686. The Russian state incorporated the city of Kiev and the lands on the left bank of the Dnieper River, including Poltava region, Chernigov region, and Zaporozhye. Their inhabitants were reunited with the main part of the Russian Orthodox people. These territories were referred to as ”Malorossia“ (Little Russia).
But now he has learned differently.
11 posted on 03/12/2022 7:52:12 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper

RE: Article by Vladimir Putin ”On the Historical Unity of Russians and Ukrainians“

History is BUNK. The issue is not what happened hundreds of years ago, the issue is what people want TODAY.

As an analogy, would it be right for me to FORCE my wife to live with me if she refuses to today and wants to leave even after we’ve been married for years?

And if she decides to leave anyway, is it right for me to threaten her to come back with a gun?


12 posted on 03/12/2022 7:54:36 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

CIA News, might be true but this source smells


13 posted on 03/12/2022 8:30:36 PM PST by dila813
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To: nickcarraway; SeekAndFind; All

At another FR post, FSB was referred to as the less competant intelligence agency. I guess they were referring to the GRU.


14 posted on 03/13/2022 9:09:55 AM PDT by gleeaikin (ould the , vitamins,Question authority!)
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