Posted on 02/09/2022 6:31:46 AM PST by marktwain
On February 2nd, 2022, the Alabama Constitutional Carry bill, SB1. passed a major hurdle: it was sent to the full Senate with a favorable recommendation from the Judiciary Committee on a 6-4 vote. From alreporter.com:
Senate Bill 1, which would allow individuals to carry a concealed weapon without a permit, which is also referred to as “constitutional carry,” received a favorable report 6-4, with one member abstaining. The bill, sponsored by state Sen. Gerald Allen, R-Tuscaloosa, now moves to the Senate for consideration.
The committee also passed Senate Bill 2, sponsored by Allen, that, if passed, would prohibit local and state law enforcement from participating in the implementation or enforcement of any federal law related to firearms.
SB1 has strong support in the Alabama Senate. It seems likely the Senate will pass the bill and send it to the Alabama House. In past years, Constitutional Carry bills have died in the House, where the Alabama Sheriffs Association has lobbied strongly to kill them.
Alabama Sheriffs are paid permit fees for concealed carry permits directly. This gives them an important and independent source of revenue. While the fees are only a few dollars each, about one-third of all adults in Alabama have concealed carry permits. This amounts to the income of hundreds of thousands of dollars a year in counties with large populations.
A few weeks ago, on January 5th, the Republican caucus in the Alabama House passed their agenda for the 2022 session. From alhousegop.org:
“Our 2022 ‘Standing Tall for Alabama’ agenda is a broad-based plan that positively affects every Alabamian and makes our state an even better place to live, work, worship, and raise a family,” House Majority Leader Nathaniel Ledbetter (R – Rainsville) said.
(Excerpt) Read more at ammoland.com ...
1/3 of Alabama adults have carry permits.
The Republican Caucus agenda claims all House Republicans have agreed to pass the agenda items, including Constitutional Carry, as priorities.
CC is on the way to the GA senate for a vote also. Supposed to be voted out of committee this week.
The Alabama Sheriff’s Association is in partnership with Mom’s Demand Action, a Bloomberg organization. One of their officials said he’d like to see the 2A limited to only people’s homes.
All that being said, there’s some value in the permits in their reciprocity provisions when traveling from state to state.
Well, well, well. Now society in Alabama is about to get a lot more polite.
Car jackings will be a way down. B&E way down. Every grandma who can have enough strength to pull a trigger will be packing.
A good thing these days.
It has been voted out of committee. In Georgia, the big hurdle is in the House.
I believe it made it out of the rules Committee but is waiting to be voted out of the judiciary committee which was supposed to happen on Monday but as far as I know has not happened yet.
Let me amend that to it made it out of the judiciary committee but has not yet hit the senate floor for a vote.
My take on the whole thing after watching this bill or something like it languish in committee for 5 years or so is as follows. Brian Kemp is trailing badly against Perdue in the governor’s race. He has likely called his legislative buddies and we all know who they are to push this through so he can run on getting constitutional carry passed.
Someone should point out to the Sheriffs that most people will still get permits. As I understand it, in states with Constitutional carry you can still get a permit so as to have reciprocity with other states. So they might lose some revenue but not all of it. They’d also look less greedy to the 1/3 of voting adults with permits now and some portion of the remaining 2/3 who would like the ability to carry but cannot or will not pay the fee...
I agree with your analysis.
But, if they do not pass it, it won't help. Not sure how much it will help if they do.
Kemp was pretty spineless in the 2020 election.
I think you’re right about that. Encourage Kemp to get this passed.
Then vote him out in the Republican primary.
Great step forward! Let’s see the law enacted asap!!
(Pay the sheriffs properly, stop them from relying on their “sale” of citizens’ constitutional rights to keep and bear 🐻!! It’s corrupt, directly anti- American to the core, and disgusting)
Alabama grandmas have been carrying all along, legal or not. Do not mess with an Alabama grandma. They will take you out and pray for your soul at the same time.
# All that being said, there’s some value in the permits in their reciprocity provisions when traveling from state to state.
Yup. I detest CC permits. Until something is done about the dismal state of the laws at the supreme court level though, the reciprocity provisions are useful, and why I keep mine up.
Trump voters in GA hate Kemp’s guts. He is toast but he’ll still try anything to get re-elected. Hopefully we get constitutional carry passed and vote Kemp out.
“Car jackings will be a way down. B&E way down. Every grandma who can have enough strength to pull a trigger will be packing.”
I’m in Alabama. Lived here most of my life. The number of people who will start carrying if this law is passed is miniscule. Like the article said, 1/3 already have permits. Another significant percentage are criminals who couldn’t get a permit anyway. The bottom line is, permits are so easy to get (at least in the county I live in) anybody who wants to carry has a permit, or doesn’t care whether he has one or not. A lot of the grandmas are in the don’t care category. Around here it’s very unlikely anyone is stupid enough to prosecute a grandma who uses a gun in self defense because she didn’t have a permit.
“Alabama grandmas have been carrying all along, legal or not. Do not mess with an Alabama grandma. They will take you out and pray for your soul at the same time.”
You and I have the same opinion. See my post #15.
I’ve got mixed thoughts on this one. I’ve got a 5-year photo ID permit that cost me $100. You can get a 5-year paper permit for $50. $10 a year does not seem out of line and quite frankly there are some people who should not carry (and therefore should be subject to “carrying without a license penalties”).
“I’ve got mixed thoughts on this one. I’ve got a 5-year photo ID permit that cost me $100. You can get a 5-year paper permit for $50. $10 a year does not seem out of line and quite frankly there are some people who should not carry (and therefore should be subject to “carrying without a license penalties”).”
I know we’re basically on the same side, and I’m trying my absolute best to be civil, but what part of “shall not be infringed” do you not understand? It’s pretty clear. You sound like my sheriff and DA, so I won’t say my opinion of them. I’m retired military; I don’t even pay for my permit, but it’s still unconstitutional. People carrying without permit are probably felons. The charge is felon in possession of a firearm.
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