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The Criminalization Of Preppers In Turkey: Will Our Country Be Next?
Organic Prepper ^ | 12-23-2021 | Aden Tate

Posted on 12/23/2021 6:53:23 AM PST by blam

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To: blam

Criminal government at work.


21 posted on 12/23/2021 8:40:55 AM PST by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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To: FiddlePig
Jackson County has Southern Oregon United, a 6,000 student college that draws the usual leftists to the staff and service industries in the surrounding town. Politically, it is a purple county, won narrowly by Trump twice. The surrounding Oregon counties were won by Trump by double digit or better margins.

Purple counties may elect Republicans to local offices, but they tend to be Assistant Democrats.

22 posted on 12/23/2021 8:56:43 AM PST by Wallace T.
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To: SoCal Pubbie

https://nypost.com/2020/03/30/brooklyn-man-arrested-for-hoarding-masks-coughing-on-fbi-agents/

Sorry, the FBI said it was investigating him for hoarding the masks.


23 posted on 12/23/2021 9:04:06 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up....)
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To: jimjohn

“ I and others also suggest NOT buying in bulk, but a little extra every week.”
That is exactly how to do it.


24 posted on 12/23/2021 9:27:01 AM PST by MCF (If my home can't be my Castle, then it will be my Alamo)
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To: metmom; blam; 4everontheRight; 4Liberty; 5thGenTexan; 45semi; 101stAirborneVet; 300winmag; ...
PRepper - When criminalizing Prepping in Venezuela or Turkey, is it coming here ?
Criminalizing Prepping here in the USA ?
Prepping is the direct opposite of collectivism and Socialism !
"Successful Prepping" is based on anticipation of a crisis, and creating an appropriate response plan with alternative options (called pre-planning)

metmom :(Criminalizing prepping)" Of course it is.
They are already demonizing preppers as “hoarders”. "

(From the article):" “ History has shown us that collectivism detests the individual.
The man who can exist independent of the system, who thinks for himself, who is not easily swayed, and who has values rooted in absolute truth which he refuses to give up – this is the enemy of collectivism. "
But if we take a closer look at one aspect of the individual – his ability to exist independent of the system – is it not clear this is an end goal of prepping?
It is, and this is why collectivism criminalizes preppers over and over again. We’ve seen it before and we’re seeing it right now, most notably in Turkey.

Look at what we’ve witnessed in Venezuela – yet another collectivist society that has been rocked by hyperinflation.
It was there, after communist policies caused a 20% shortage of basic goods, that Attorney General Luisa Ortega Diaz
called for prosecutors to target those who were “hoarders” of staples of daily life.
In other words, if you had a supply of rice stowed away in your basement, you were no longer safe. Now, you were a target. ! Within the US we’re already seeing widespread shortages of goods.
We’re already seeing massive inflation to the point that this is the highest levels of it the US has ever seen. “

Suggested rules for Preppers :
#1).. Our ancestors prepared for known uncertainties, even before they became a crisis.
We call that prudence, and foresight and gathering up surplus while it is still "in season", thus avoiding crisis.
Temporal preparedness is being prepared for shortages; but our ancestors were also were Bible based religious folk.
Spiritual preparedness also gives us something else that worldly property cannot give us - it gives us endurance during hardship, encourages hope, and strengthens faith.
#2) .. Many preppers transport supplies at night so as to minimize the number of people who may be aware of their legally purchased supplies during times of plenty.
“Many eyes,.. make for many spies !”
#3).. "Become the Gray man" - blend into the community, clothing camouflage, and behavior: slump over while walking like the rest of the down-beaten in worn clothing.
#4).. "You don't own it, unless you are willing to protect and defend it" – defensive firearms, weapons, tools, etc.. Humans are a competing species if it means survival
#5) .. If traveling to another area, many preppers will secrete cache supplies along the way to offer re-supply while enroute.
This might include fuel, appropriate clothing, canned goods, food, snacks, water filtration systems, tools, paper maps, compass, etc., buried in water tight containers .
#6).. Practice, practice, practice, etc., etc.,,,,
Want to know what weakness your prepper system are , then practice and you will find out where the chinks are in your armor.
Remember that prepping is a defensive strategy to assure your own personal and family survival.
Respect practice, because your life and survival, and those of your family, may depend on it !

25 posted on 12/23/2021 9:45:00 AM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt; All
A foolish man says that all things will remain the same ( Normalcy Bias )
A wise man prepares for the future, and the for the unknown, with faith and spiritual confidence.

26 posted on 12/23/2021 10:06:19 AM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

I know people who have been prepping and do it surreptitiously.

They only buy about 10% more each shopping trip than usual. It’s not enough to raise any suspicions or red flags.

Although in this area of NH, to the north it’s pretty desolate, and I was in BJs once and the lady who was working said they had people from far up north who come in only once a month to do all their grocery shopping, so they buy a lot.

I guess it depends some on whether it’s unusual for someone to be stocking up or not. Local mentality plays a role here.


27 posted on 12/23/2021 10:07:02 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith….)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

And DON’T talk about what you have stored up.

Pretend to be outraged at hoarders.


28 posted on 12/23/2021 10:07:47 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith….)
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To: DesertRhino

Sorry, he was arrested for price gouging under the Defense Production Act.

“Prosecutors said 43-year-old Baruch Feldheim sought to take advantage of the COVID-19 crisis and equipment shortages at New York’s hospitals to make medical workers pay inflated prices for surgical masks, medical gowns and other Personal Protective Equipment (PPE).”

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/fbi-arrests-man-allegedly-coughing-agents-hoarding-selling/story?id=69884846


29 posted on 12/23/2021 10:24:27 AM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: DesertRhino

Did you even bother to read the article at your link? The price gouging is in there.


30 posted on 12/23/2021 10:27:51 AM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: SoCal Pubbie

Hoarding investigation... That was the nexus of the investigation. They were looking for hoarders.


31 posted on 12/23/2021 10:52:07 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up....)
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To: blam
I have waited my whole lie for a government that was tough enough to crack down on Peppers.

Bravo, Turkey.

32 posted on 12/23/2021 11:08:04 AM PST by x
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To: ctdonath2

Hoarding is and will be whatever TPB says it is. “Reasonable” plays no part in what passes for collectivist thinking.


33 posted on 12/23/2021 11:09:22 AM PST by Noumenon (Black American flag time. KTF)
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To: DesertRhino

Your taking the headline as the story.

“Their first case was sparked by an interview a New Jersey doctor gave to NBC News last month, describing how he’d had to resort to buying protective equipment on the black market at an exorbitant price.

Investigators immediately approached the doctor, who connected them with another witness and a WhatsApp group where the sales were being facilitated, Carpenito said.”

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/04/02/politics/hhs-redistributing-seized-medical-supplies/index.html


34 posted on 12/23/2021 11:10:42 AM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: blam; metmom

Not if we’d shut up about it, LOL! ;)

When canned goods are outlawed, only Outlaws will have canned good?

I’m seriously considering a new car - the first NEW vehicle I’ll ever own, and at this age, hopefully my last. Problem is Sticker Shock, and I can’t find the model I want; not even to take for a test drive! Grrrr!

I’d like to think that there won’t be roving bands of IRS Agents storming into private homes and counting cans of beans, but with this crew? WHO KNOWS?


35 posted on 12/23/2021 11:48:38 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: ctdonath2

“Prepping should end where you have more than enough to the point of wasting resources.”

Exactly!

I WAS going to go on a rant about all of Beau’s ‘guy stuff’ but more times than not, he can come up with a solution to whatever my current need or want is, just with parts on hand.

And he DOES make regular treks to the Scrap Yard to recycle metals for cash, and we’re down to two junker vehicles within my sight lines, so I guess it’s all good. ;)


36 posted on 12/23/2021 12:15:08 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: blam

We prepped in 2010. Our garage is full.


37 posted on 12/23/2021 12:45:19 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

check your freep mail


38 posted on 12/23/2021 12:54:38 PM PST by MomwithHope (Forever grateful to all our patriots, past, present and future..)
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To: Noumenon

Too often we let the collectivists define the terms, and after they create/select the scenario. Get ahead of the curve, push the message “hoarding is accumulation unto wastefulness” before they define it as “two weeks’ supply”.


39 posted on 12/23/2021 1:01:24 PM PST by ctdonath2 (Statistics don't matter when they happen to you.)
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To: FiddlePig
Collecting rain water being outlawed is a common thing west of the Mississippi.

Whiskey is for drinking water is for fighting over is not a joke there.

40 posted on 12/23/2021 1:04:39 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (add a dab of lavender in milk, leave town with an orange and pretend you're laughing with it)
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