Posted on 08/17/2020 7:10:58 AM PDT by marktwain
People who do this would make great Muslims.
I am pretty sure detaining someone at gunpoint, even at low ready, is illegal in every state in the union.
Did this guy escape from the circus? Who dresses like that?
I guess the main question is while behind the wheel looking like I am scared (FOR THE RECORD I FEARED FOR MY LIFE), can I duck, floor it and be drawing while they are still standing there.
I realize that it is ‘easier’ to figure out what to do while pounding on the keys but my job takes me into neighborhoods etc that I would rather not be, sometimes in a scenario like above- just driving along and make a turn and go from ‘sunshine to thunderheads’ so I do stay alert and situationally aware.
How this particular scene isn’t considered brandishing is beyond me.
‘They’ can charge one for brandishing if you take it out of the glove box and put it on the seat and another motorist ‘sees it’ and swears you ‘waved’ it at them.
It appears that if the other motorist calls on you and you do get pulled over, the callers story will be believed before yours once the LEO sees the weapon.
Which is what makes the Red Flag BullSchiff so dangerous.
YOU are ‘guilty as charged’ until it can be determined you are NOT a danger to yourself or anyone else.
That is a broad brush to overcome....
That is why I like to ‘stress’ it is called CONCEALED for good reason.
The guy in yellow/black zebra print has a US flag mask. That’s kind of interesting.
It’s the one on the right. Mash it to the floor.
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In this case, the driver was able to back up.
The fact the agitators ran to get in front of him, shows their main purpose was not defensive, but aggressive street blocking.
It is not a "win" to run over these agitators. That is what they want.
It is a win to do what this driver did, show their aggressive criminality, and escape unharmed.
Any ID of the Antifa thugs?
They need to be identified.
Agree, diffuse as quickly as possible and get out of the area, like I said - be situationally aware - though sometimes things just happen.
Granted the agitators are itching to sacrifice a few of their own in the name of agitating BUT if enough get shot or run over, the sheep/lemmings will be less likely to continue acting like that.
Like it or not the Kent State thing did put a stop to most of the foolishness that had been going on.
Sometimes we MUST give someone what they ‘want’.
It is hard to get volunteers if there is a chance of ‘getting hurt’ etc.
Why dash/body cams are almost required anymore, at least they can’t ‘openly lie (and get away with it)’ and you may have some ‘self justification’ tape.
I not only don’t want to intentionally run anyone over BUT, on the other hand, I also don’t want my windows broken or dragged from my vehicle, so if I get in a situation like that, chances are pretty good I will give them the ‘wish’ they seem to be after.
Agree, diffuse as quickly as possible and get out of the area, like I said - be situationally aware - though sometimes things just happen.
Granted the agitators are itching to sacrifice a few of their own in the name of agitating BUT if enough get shot or run over, the sheep/lemmings will be less likely to continue acting like that.
Like it or not the Kent State thing did put a stop to most of the foolishness that had been going on.
Sometimes we MUST give someone what they ‘want’.
It is hard to get volunteers if there is a chance of ‘getting hurt’ etc.
Why dash/body cams are almost required anymore, at least they can’t ‘openly lie (and get away with it)’ and you may have some ‘self justification’ tape.
I not only don’t want to intentionally run anyone over BUT, on the other hand, I also don’t want my windows broken or dragged from my vehicle, so if I get in a situation like that, chances are pretty good I will give them the ‘wish’ they seem to be after.
This is the key and needs to be repeated:
Do not roll down your window(s) or open your door.
Once a window is smashed, peaceful demonstration over, responding force, maybe justifiable deadly force, is justified.
This is also why the "protestors" have been coached to bang on vehicles. It is to get the reaction the organizers want.
The "protestors" in Austin banged on the vehicle. It was one of the considerations in the driver's use of deadly force.
Immediately afterward, defenders of the "protestors" claimed there was no banging on the vehicle, that no one was approaching the vehicle because they were all scared they were going to be run over.
That was all disproven by video.
It shows their canned response.
“Time to send the NG in to kill these bums!”
Only if the state request it. And they are trying to promote unrest for November’s vote to get rid of Trump.
rwood
I know that it’s time for Trump to bring forward everything and take care of business.
“I know that it’s time for Trump to bring forward everything and take care of business.”
I think you’re right. But in their efforts to protect the states from the feds the founders from the fear of what England did to them left a loophole never thinking the states would ever want to commit suicide like they are currently attempting for political purposes. People then had morals, honesty, and a belief that people would do the right thing. Times change.
rwood
My son runs various drills with his buddies at the gravel pit. With better trigger discipline.
I think POTUS is going to bring the top maul to them soon. Just a little while ago the guy who was beaten by ANTIFA died and the FBI arrested CIA agent who was colluding with China.
CIA action is fed. The action required for the guy that was beaten, unless he was tied to the feds in some way, belongs to the state as that is nothing more than criminality. I would like to see 2nd degree murder for them as they didn’t plan, or it can’t be proven, they went down there to get him and kill him. That’s up to the state.
rwood
I agree except Feds need to take the lead against ANTIFA as they are foreign/domestically funded subversive terrorist organization.
“... take the lead against ANTIFA...”
Hard on the legal side of things to determine they are ANTIFA. They don’t wear uniforms depicting themselves, they don’t admit they are, and once the damage gets done it looks like an exiting roadrunner cartoon when there is suddenly just a little puff of smoke. A lot of times the media says it is them, and the first words out of my mouth is “please prove it.” Then they can start arresting the people in charge of making decisions to harm. Cut off the head. But it has to have fact to generate an arrest warrant. So as long as it remains criminal and not proven terrorist, it’s the states that are taking the action. And I say, “let them have it.” The more they fail their voters, the uglier they look. And that can include senators and representatives at all levels.
rwood
The right people know who they are and the Feds have been scooping up the leaders left and right.
“The right people know who they are...”
Well if they do, they haven’t got the right ones yet to make a dent in their “work.” Wish they would do better.
rwood
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