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“First They Came For The Confederates And I Did Not Speak Out… ”
MOTUS ^ | 6-20-20 | MOTUS

Posted on 06/20/2020 4:50:41 AM PDT by NOBO2012

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To: NOBO2012

Do we (America loving Americans) have the f—king balls to fight these Globalists? I’m not sure if we do. One of my co-workers, who is a felon, said that if CW2 starts, he’ll be shooting Anti Americans. I believe CW2 did start in 2008...


41 posted on 06/20/2020 7:12:52 AM PDT by Deplorable American1776 (Proud to be a DeplorableAmerican with a Deplorable Family...even the dog is, too. :-)could you shove)
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To: Travis McGee

Yep. History repeats. Don’t forget the French Revolution of 1789. Same crap. The French murdered anyone who wasn’t a sycophant in support of the revolutionaries.

King Louis the 16th did nothing but talked tough. He let the progressives burn towns and destroy statues. The progressives took over and murdered thousands. The progressives stormed government armories for weapons. They killed anyone who talked badly of them. They eventually turned on themselves.

History repeats.

I see Trump as King Louis XVI, someone who says the right words but fails to take sufficient action to stop the insurrections. As with King Louis, he defers far too much to governors and mayors as the French did in 1789. King Louis didn’t want to be seen as heavy handed, but he waited far too late until the progressives had reached critical mass and took over. The revolutionaries executed the king.


42 posted on 06/20/2020 7:22:08 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: CodeToad

Quick question. How many here think that those billion bullets and firearms actually went to other agencies? And if they did, how many believe that the recipients of Obama’s gift still have them?


43 posted on 06/20/2020 7:26:09 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Cloward-Piven is finally upon us.)
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To: Travis McGee
“Ezekiel 25:17. "The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness. For he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know I am the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you."

It is time to get Medieval on their a$$es. But how does one do that with police protecting the vandals?

44 posted on 06/20/2020 7:34:50 AM PDT by Thommas
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To: Ciaphas Cain

“It is way past time to begin meeting these animals with appropriate force.”

Defund and abolish the police. Maybe once freed from the orders of their filthy big city democrat overseers they will join us. In the meantime they are not our friends.


45 posted on 06/20/2020 7:40:22 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: wita

IT is now time to start destroying these SOBs!


46 posted on 06/20/2020 7:59:06 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: CodeToad

> defers far too much to governors and mayors

This assessment depends on whether you think ANYONE can bring the entire US, as currently composed, under the Constitution.

If you think the breakup (communist city-states separating from state, then not being able to affect state law, also many entire states leaving or being kicked out) will happen, then you might be more supportive of his approach.


47 posted on 06/20/2020 8:01:11 AM PDT by old-ager (anti-new-ager)
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To: old-ager

“This assessment depends on whether you think ANYONE can bring the entire US, as currently composed, under the Constitution.”

Yes, I do; otherwise, why have a constitution?? If you cannot enforce it then you have anarchy, and I can guarantee you the left will not like anarchy.


48 posted on 06/20/2020 8:03:40 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: CodeToad

“I see Trump as King Louis XVI, someone who says the right words but fails to take sufficient action to stop the insurrections. “

Another view on Trump is he is trying to hold back the power of the omnipotent national government in order to reinstate the founding fathers’ vision of limited government. Under the republican system of government the founders gave us, states and local governments are responsible for preserving order in their jurisdictions. Trump is standing back requesting the state and local officials do their duty. In effect he wants the citizens of these local jurisdictions to demand accountability of the local officials. Sadly, the public to date is so cowed by the mob, citizens are not demanding action. To date it is evident these mayors and governors do not fear being replaced in November. If the people continue to reelect them, then the people are complicit in the destruction.

The Constitution guarantees a republican system of government It does not guarantee good government at any level - local, state, and federal. The responsibility for good governance lies with the people under our system. If the people choose poorly they will have bad government. In holding back, Trump is allowing the people to experience the effects of bad choice. No different than a parent who refuses to replace a toy damaged by his/her child’s friend when the child allowed the friend to play with it.

The alternative is for the president to intervene with military troops in every situation where local government fails. The founders consciously rejected the concept of a king or dictator leading a strong, interventionist, central government. George Washington pointedly refused to be appointed king of the new nation and set an example by stepping down voluntarily after two terms as president.

Trump’s behavior is conservative and 100% in line with the vision of the founders. If you want a free republic, you do not want a strong central government. Trump is forcing us to stop looking to Washington to solve our problems. Get involved at the local level and demand accountability from the mayors, city councils, and governors.

I still fear a strong interventionist national government more than I fear the mob. If the mob keeps rampaging, the neighborhoods and businesses of white liberal progressives will start to burn and their activist children marching with the mob will be beat up or otherwise harmed. At that point, public opinion will shift strongly


49 posted on 06/20/2020 8:12:12 AM PDT by Soul of the South (The past is gone and cannot be changed. Tomorrow can be a better day if we work on i)
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To: Soul of the South
" Under the republican system of government the founders gave us, states and local governments are responsible for preserving order in their jurisdictions"

Wrong assumption. The federal government also has a responsibility to protect the people from insurrections. You should read the US Constitution instead of just repeating ignorant nonsense that you find on the Internet.

Article 1. Section 8.
"The Congress shall ...To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions;"

Article IV. Section 4.
"The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government, and shall protect each of them against invasion; and on application of the legislature, or of the executive (when the legislature cannot be convened) against domestic violence."

50 posted on 06/20/2020 8:23:30 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: Deplorable American1776
We have been fighting a “civil” Civil War for a very long time, but only a small segment of our Society had a clue it was happening.

The Leftist creep rolled on slowly, surely and very deliberately. They put their Assets in place in all areas of our Society, Entertainment, Education, the News Media and the entire bloated Government Bureaucracy.

Now we have moved into a new phase.

51 posted on 06/20/2020 8:24:23 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Kill a Commie for your Mommy.)
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To: CodeToad
.....I see Trump as King Louis XVI, someone who says the right words but fails to take sufficient action to stop the insurrections. As with King Louis, he defers far too much to governors and mayors as the French did in 1789. King Louis didn’t want to be seen as heavy handed, but he waited far too late until the progressives had reached critical mass and took over. The revolutionaries executed the king.

Bingo !!

52 posted on 06/20/2020 9:02:39 AM PDT by Ron H. (Gab.com)
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To: CodeToad

There is only one way to untie a Gordian knot.


53 posted on 06/20/2020 10:50:14 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

And the agents of the state stand by and watch, only taking action against the whites who come out to defend their history.


54 posted on 06/20/2020 12:35:04 PM PDT by Mr. Blond
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To: Travis McGee

...and that is to sever the knot.


55 posted on 06/20/2020 1:39:51 PM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: ohioman

Agree completely, but this from post 44 does cause a pause.

“But how does one do that with police protecting the vandals?”

I would add besides police, government of all kinds and heavy hitters such as Mayors and Governors, siding with the lawbreakers. Who then becomes the target?


56 posted on 06/21/2020 5:45:02 AM PDT by wita (Always and forever, under oath in defense of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.)
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To: wita

We will always be the target. The land of the free ain’t so free anymore. There are dark times ahead. However, I would rather die fighting than live on my knees A slave.


57 posted on 06/21/2020 6:26:58 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: CodeToad; Soul of the South

You should read the US Constitution instead of just repeating ignorant nonsense that you find on the Internet.

In my opinion, you could have left out that part of your comment and maybe had an intelligent conversation. Frankly I agree with SOS in that it is indeed part of local governments job to preserve order in their jurisdictions. Our President faces a good deal of risk if he is forced by inaction of lower jurisdictions, to crack down on cities or states siding with anarchy. The media will have a field day with any show of force by those who should be fighting this ongoing lawlessness. We are in a very precarious position right now as I see it. Any show of force by the Fed and orange man gets the fall out from media, our enemy.


58 posted on 06/21/2020 6:28:57 AM PDT by wita (Always and forever, under oath in defense of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.)
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To: wita

“maybe had an intelligent conversation. “

You could have left that part out too, but you chose to try to admonish me. What an idiot. You did what you claimed I shouldn’t have done.


59 posted on 06/21/2020 6:37:59 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: wita

“The media will have a field day “

So, you’re a coward. So what? Cowardice is why we are in the problem in the first place. Adults who are unwilling to act like adults raised these spoiled brats, and now you want to continue that lazy cowardice.

No thanks. I prefer to protect America and not let a bunch of children tear it up.


60 posted on 06/21/2020 6:40:21 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Are!)
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