Posted on 05/14/2020 7:27:43 PM PDT by amorphous
Actually i read that but could not believe that while you exclude Greenland you combine two different countries, Norway-Denmark, yet the latter has a population density of 350 vs 60 for Sweden. And while similar in culture and Covid response, yet,
while Norway has followed Denmark, it has tended to go a little further.
That the death rate for Denmark is only 97 vs. 47 for Norway and 389 Sweden speaks well (in that comparison) for Denmark despite having a much higher pop. density.
However, my argument was and I still contend that the extreme all-ages "stay-sheltered" US restrictions (in so many Democrat states) are unprecedented and while providing a short-term again, they will end up causing even more deaths, which was my argument. Already as regards just one area, we have reports such as “Calls to suicide and help hotline in Los Angeles increase 8,000% due to coronavirus,” and “Doctors at John Muir Medical Center in Walnut Creek say they have seen more deaths by suicide during this quarantine period than deaths from the COVID-19 virus,” (https://abc7.com/suicide-hotline-calls-coronavirus-covid19-los-angeles/6117099/; https://abc7news.com/suicide-covid-19-coronavirus-rates-during-pandemic-death-by/6201962/; https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/68/wr/mm6826a5.htm)
I combine Norway with Denmark as combined they have a population density similar to Sweden. They were also one country until the Napoleonic wars and along with the Swedes have significant cultural similarities.
Assuming Denmark excluding Greenland is combined with norway it makes for a good comparison with Sweden.
And for now Sweden’s approach has resulted in 5 times more deaths/10k. Extrapolating that to the usa or any other country is a valid extrapolation if the latter country kept Sweden’s social distancing and self lockdown.
1 day late
100,000 deaths was crossed only on the 26th of May.
By June 1 it would be 102K.
By June 30, since the overall trend is lower, it would probably be in the range of 114K to 120K, with it more likely being a the lower end
After about 1.25 years the swine flu was estimated at 300,000 deaths. Estimated deaths for Covid-19 after 5 months is 352,000. That includes the low-ball numbers that China has put out.
That said - the CV19 numbers are coming down much sooner than the swine flu, so hopefully as we open things up folks will keep taking precautions and keep it going down.
"They" couldn't have that sort of milestone occur on Memorial Day.
I look for the data become even more skewed, depending upon who has the most control over it. Unless today's numbers are back on track, with case history, we've either had significant improvement of treatment, past data fudging is being corrected, or someone is lying about the true number of those who are presently dying.
Only recently a webmaster in Florida was fired for not altering the state's numbers.
Regardless, not having accurate and timely data during this day and age is unacceptable.
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