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To: Widget Jr

I saw this segment live and re-watched it here and now.

I am curious how you came up with the headline saying Gowdy “argued” with Carlson. The was no argument and little disagreement.

Many want Gowdy pilloried so bad it seems like grabbing at straws to make it so.

Go ahead let me have it with both barrels but I just don’t see this clip advancing your narrative.

I don’t have the desire to enter into an argument here so take the last word if it is your want. I typed my thoughts


16 posted on 05/11/2020 7:57:51 PM PDT by ImpBill (Conservative voter sans political Party!)
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To: ImpBill

I saw this segment live and re-watched it here and now.

I am curious how you came up with the headline saying Gowdy “argued” with Carlson. The was no argument and little disagreement.

Many want Gowdy pilloried so bad it seems like grabbing at straws to make it so.

Go ahead let me have it with both barrels but I just don’t see this clip advancing your narrative.

I don’t have the desire to enter into an argument here so take the last word if it is your want. I typed my thoughts


I guess we watched a different interview. Gowdy was on defense nearly the entire time. I can see why you don’t want to debate the subject.


19 posted on 05/11/2020 8:01:33 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: ImpBill

I generally like Gowdy, but I was not satisfied with some of his answers. I am glad he did this interview and thought Tucker asked some hard but fair questions.

Over the last few weeks I have taken the time to read many if not most of the transcripts that were released. I am upset that the GOP was not forceful in putting it out there that NONE of the witnesses, not one, said they had or had seen evidence of collusion. I feel this is now, with the advantage of hindsight, a very fair assessment.

Do you think the DNC would have remained silent in the face of withering attacks and falsehoods in the news? No, they would not.

I often listened to Gowdy when he was interviewed on this thing because he was one of the two republicans that had the most access to the information. I am very pissed right now at his answer to the question many of us have asked about why he told Martha that “Americans would want the FBI to do what they did” after he was briefed by the FBI.

His answer tonight was “it took me about 3 weeks to figure out they were full of crap.” (paraphrased) However, I do not remember him saying that in the months or even a year after that statement. Why?

He said he went to the documents directly and reviewed them, but I DO NOT remember him ever issuing a correction to his statement. I don’t recall him publicly stating that he was lied to by Wray and the FBI. Did I somehow miss all of this?

This dishonest narrative that Trump was a Russian stooge largely occurred in the face of silence by the GOP. If I was in Gowdy’s shoes I would have publicly called Schiff a liar when it counted. I would have said “while I cannot talk about specifics of what was said in our committee due to classification, I can 100% tell the American people that not one of the witnesses stated they had seen or knew direct evidence that Trump colluded with Russia. Not one. Schiff is lying to you.”

Why was Gowdy not out there saying they are lying when they appear on television or get quoted in print media saying there was collusion?

With a few exceptions, the republicans left Trump hung out to dry. They defended Mueller even when, as we see now, they should have demanded to know the predicate. None of it passed the smell test, but we had a special counsel accountable to none that operated with no oversight. The special counsel was created to investigate Russian collusion yet they never once looked at or considered the role of the DNC and HRC campaigns in working with Russia?

There has to be a why for me. They defended Mueller for the most part until it became very obvious what a partisan witch hunt it all was. They never demanded to see the underlying predicate for the special counsel investigation. They did not issue subpoenas when they could have. They did not use the power they possessed to demand answers and it is a large part of the reason this ridiculous farce dragged on for so long. They did not defend Sessions or demand to know why they advised him to be recused. That looks completely ridiculous now. They should have had Rosenstein before their committee to explain himself when he took over for Sessions.

There is a lot of stuff “they” could have done to get to the bottom of this. There were some good books written on this farce long ago that have not only been proven to be correct, but they did not even go far enough in hindsight. Why does Schiff invite professors who know nothing about nothing to play some game and the GOP does not call these authors to ask them about their allegations.

They never really mounted any defense of this President or even the White House as an institution.

I am not “anti-Gowdy”, but I want to know why the GOP did so little in hindsight other than make appearances on Fox news to defend the presidency from this attack. He was one of the few who had the authority and the ability to assess this farce with actual documents.

The more I think about his answer tonight the more angry I become. He suggested to Tucker that it took him 3 weeks to find out that his briefing with Wray was incorrect and he had to see the documents himself.

Why did he still defend the FBI? Why did he not call out Wray? It sounds like Wray lied to him. Did he say this and I missed it? I don’t think he did. How would I forget that? He did that interview in May of 2018.

Here is the important part of his appearance with Tucker Carlson tonight:

Quote from his March of 2018 appearance with Martha on Fox News. A quote still cited on left-wing sites every day because it has never been corrected by Gowdy!

“The FBI did exactly what my fellow citizens would want them to do when they got the information and it has nothing to do with Donald Trump.”

Tucker - do you still feel that way?

Gowdy - Oh (golly shucks) gosh no. That was when I figured out that I could not rely on the FBI and the DOJ and not insisting on seeing the documents.

Did he ever see the documents? He said in July of 2018 “this is not a witchhunt.”

Those have not aged well have they? Tucker challenged his assertions and....

Gowdy tacks back to “Russia interfered with our election” - the usual go-to for idiots in this thing. I am still waiting to find out what Russia did and I want specifics. This is bullchit (pardon my pseudo-French). The Senate and House reports on this do not name any specifics. Gowdy insisted there was and Tucker called him out on that. Gowdy did not answer it - the usual “the FBI did not examine the server.” Good thing that. Would you trust Comey and Strozk to get to the bottom of it all now in hindsight?

This is not verbatim, but is pretty accurate summary of his appearance on Tucker.

Sorry, it is not sitting well with me.


33 posted on 05/11/2020 8:51:39 PM PDT by volunbeer (Find the truth and accept it - anything else is delusional)
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To: ImpBill
"I am curious how you came up with the headline saying Gowdy “argued” with Carlson. The was no argument and little disagreement."

Because I made mistake and put in the wrong title. Sorry about that.

54 posted on 05/12/2020 12:49:19 AM PDT by Widget Jr
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To: ImpBill

There was not an argument......Tucker KNOCKED HIM OUT COLD! Gowdy was STUNNED!


59 posted on 05/12/2020 3:15:05 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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